Go Back to Pt 3!: Parts Cannon DIAGNOSIS! Ford E350 5.8 Fuel Injected https://youtu.be/0QTw_fIBicA
Pt 1: No Crank No Start Fuel Smell | 1995 Ford 1 ton 5.8 351
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A little loud in there today. we're going over here. Hi everybody, good day to you! Welcome back! If this is your first time here, just welcome. Glad you're here I know I'm glad to be here.

So uh, this you guys remember this thing the uh infinite? can't figure it out. Diag I've got a I got a PCM here and uh, we're gonna pop into the hood real quick. toss this PCM and cross our fingers. Toss the battery in see if it's gonna run so stay tuned.

opening Z Hood yeah Gravity begin Hood Popping procedure Ah now I don't know what the mileage is I forgot and the battery's out of it so we're just gonna have to wait for that part. See what? Uh, see if this thing's gonna work? I I Already pulled the old PCM out. It had a it had a core charge on it so I had it prepared for when the new one got here. It goes way back.

See that hole in the firewall back there? That's uh, that's where she rides shoe. Let me figure out my prop Rod situation here. There we go and we'll get this unit installed. Just a big ground box.

It's not. uh, it's not a super intelligent electronic device. It basically just grounds many, many circuits. What you guys should remember from the last video is that I had found a I call it a dirty ground which means that ground was just on off.

On off on off and it was causing one of these relays right here to buzz. You Hear that buzzing? This is that buzzing. is the coil in this relay going open circuit, Closed circuit. Open circuit, Closed circuit.

So that buzzing is not or that relay is not making good connection. I I Checked out the wiring diagram and found that the actuation Circuit of the relay is controlled by the PCM and again, the ground side of that circuit is what the Pecm operates. The load Circuit of the relay is not the cause of that buzzing. That buzzing is being caused by the actuation circuit represented right here which is going to be the red wire and the light blue was that light blue with an orange.

Tracer Okay, let's go ahead and back up that red wire and make sure that that is a power supply that runs over to our other page turns into a splice right here. gets some power at the PCM Power relay, splices back over and ultimately again hands up at PCM. Okay, so that leaves this side of the circuit to cause that buzzing. Or it leaves the other side the ground side of that circuit to cause that buzzing.

Because again, if we follow the light blue and the orange Tracer wire to our other graph, that's uh, was that number eight right there? I think that's eight you get T Now you can see we follow that one on over. This circuit gets its ground directly from the PCM that in conjunction with our horrible running condition and our check engine light that is also ground actuated, That thing was just like flickering when it was supposed to have been on. it was a very low, uh, low intensity flicker again leading me to believe that there was a background that self-check will not work. see how it tries to flash, but it won't flash like there's a flash.
But this is not how it's supposed to be doing this at that point. I Had hypothesized that since this is a giant grounding unit, and I had already located two confirmed bad grounds that, uh, it seemed quite plausible, logical, and even probable that uh, the fuel injector circuits on this particular engine which are also ground actuated may be affected by the fault in the original unit. So, we're going to get this thing installed, toss the battery in, and, uh, see. Well, we're gonna see if it's gonna run or if, uh, if the parts.

Cannon Diag continues. You know what? Let's uh, let's move over here because I'm gonna have to squeeze that unit in like right in this area there. So let's move you guys over here and we can get back to work. What I need to do? All right.

Memory serves here. Pull that thing aside and we just need to squeeze this unit up into this little hole here. and then we'll uh, slide it into the firewall and then and then Bolter back in. Should be a fairly quick process.

I'll tell you if this is a this is going to work, this is really the problem then. Um, well, this might be a short video we'll see. Go in please. Okay, it's in position now.

We've got the little clamping seal device thing here. It just kind of slips over the front of that PCM then bolts it to the firewall. ECM ECM is engine control PCM is powertrain control module and uh, inadvertently I tend to use those terms interchangeably, but it's kind of the same thing. It's kind of not, but kind of is just trying to get this connector set up real fast here and lined up.

I think I think we're on it right there. Where's my nuts? They were right here. got them. They were on the firewall where I left them I'm gonna screw one side in.

we're not dropping these because I'm at the parking lot and if I drop it, it's going to fall in the gravel and I'll probably never see it again. That would be unfortunate. Very much so. Okay, and I need a 10 mil on my uh on a tool to secure the connector and we're in business.

All right here we go. We need, uh, what is that an 11? I don't even know I just brought all my tools 11 or 12 I think that's 11. I brought an 11. Yeah, I brought brought multiples so I can't get them confused.

All right, that's the clamp. a little uh, seal looking thing. another one on the other side that I can't see. Come here.

Give me back my socket and the 10 mil in the middle for the connector. Stop slapping that trigger like it owes you money. It makes. Yeah, All right.

what do we have? There's the brake booster vacuum tube. We're gonna need that cook connected and just need a battery now. Battery battery again. Forgive the huge mess we got going on I'm trying to work in a construction zone I have my battery around here somewhere I need to locate it Oh it's so bad today.
There's so much stuff. Where is my battery I don't see it? Okay I knew it was back here I found it a little bit of wandering around. it changed my my angle of view here and then found it on the Shelf Nice and organized where it goes bro. let's get this thing out into the van heavy.

Well you guys know how the sand goes. it's either gonna work or it's not and uh I Really hope it works because I don't have the mental fortitude right now to process a failure. Not today. Okay, a little bit more up slamming batteries on customers cars free.

You're down in that hole right there. Foreign. There we go. Oh I need to fetch the screwdriver key I left it in the shop back inside again.

wait wait no. I didn't I just reached in I found it I found the screwdriver key. All right. So gonna run fuel starting Z Engine alive I think I think we got it guys.

we got it. Let me let this run for a little while and then we'll come back. check on it, see if it stays running. Do I have any uh check engine light action here? Okay, no, no light.

That's cool. Got battery voltage we've got I Still don't know what the mileage is. We'll call it 700 554 miles. That's all the new fuel we'll do.

The fuel gauge works. we have oil pressure I don't have engine temperature yet because it's not up to temperature. So far so good. Yeah this is uh, running much much more better or way better than before Flashback: it smells really really rich.

like stupid rich. Yeah, it's rich. don't don't do that. Fingers crossed, let's let it all come up to Temp and uh, maybe I'll actually go drive this thing all right so we can hear that Tickety tick.

There is a leak in the exhaust manifold. we can see right back there we've got a got a broken stud. uh, fairly common. It's not a leak, that's the uh air injection pump.

It's supposed to pump air into these manifolds here, but somebody has deleted that. I'm gonna try to find a kit that uh, moves. that pump places it with a pulley. We don't need this here.

It's a huge parasitic mode. Uh, it's got a few random other vacuum leaks that probably need to button up and organize a little bit. clean up some of this stuff there's there's some more work to be done here. Maybe I'll put the radio back in? Maybe not.

Who knows. So uh, now that it's alive, we've got something to work with. So uh, that's what I'm gonna do in the future. but for right now I think we're in good shape while it's running a little low, but there is some in there I'll deal with that later.

I'm sure it needs an oil change. needs an air filter. It needs a new battery because this one's mine. They can't have it.

It's my deep cycle. Yeah, there's there's a lot of knick-knacky stuff. so I'm probably gonna have this thing lingering for a while as a as a project. Oh yeah, yeah.

and the key and the key because I'm gonna need my screwdriver back. I'm gonna need the screwdriver back later. but right now, like this works. yeah.
I'm happy the van works again. Windows up Green that was a little slow. I'll be right back you guys wait over I'm gonna come back and recheck on this thing in about five. All right 30 minute recheck.

I Think it's still running. It sounds like it's running. Smells like it's running. Oh it's hot in here.

It's it's running. Temp gauge is coming up, still have oil pressure. We still have power. Nice.

it will live on super. I'm thrilled that is a confirmed kill. Got it? ECM was bad. Unbelievable.

That was a hard one for me guys. this is this was a hard one. I did not have fun anyway. Uh, there is gonna be some more work on this.

Obviously it's uh, it's uh, like project. Resurrection So that being said, I'm uh I'm gonna let this cool off. I'm gonna order some more parts that it needs. There's stuff that's missing, stuff that's broken, need a battery, etc.

etc. I'm gonna check out the undercarriage later. So I'm probably gonna end up bringing this thing back up to roadworthy condition because we need to get this van back into service. So that being said, I'm going to go ahead and close this video out right now.

Thank you guys for watching this success story! I'm so proud of myself. Appreciate you guys being here and as always, don't forget to have yourselves a great day. See you guys later! Thanks for watching end of transmission and deferred for now. Sure.


96 thoughts on “Barely runs saved from scrap! parts cannon ford 5.8”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Scott Philippi says:

    This was so useful as I have a 2003 Ford Focus that runs great but I have a dim check engine light that stays on even after I shut the engine off and pull the key out. No codes, no problems; just the light is on and dim as if is grounded slightly to something. Now I have a good idea where to start, thanks.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MarzNet256 says:

    Nice!

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars woodbine66 says:

    Thanks to Casey Jones for the authentic US sound effects.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars L Frank's says:

    Congratulations!

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tiddybearkush says:

    You are like that guy who made Frankenstein 😂

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ET M says:

    When you can feel the second-hand happiness through the screen ☺

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ralph Neumann says:

    Glad to hear the trains are running through there again.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars kickazz 12 says:

    Who's van is that, yours cause aint no way i would put money into that?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @97TJ_WESTEND says:

    It has that typical Ford power steering pump whine.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stealth G35 Infiniti says:

    It's so gratifying to bring something back to life such a neglected vehicle. The part I hate is when the owner 6 months later brings it back trashed out again not really caring about your previous efforts. The way to look at it is, they paid for the work, not to feel appreciated.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alan Reynolds says:

    Never in a million years…. way to go Ray!

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steve Elvey says:

    Finding a lot of PCM’s on older fords with failing electrolytic capacitors now. Causes these screwed up weird faults.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andy Meyers says:

    i have to know, what did you call the m in ecm and pcm that u dubbed over?

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John T says:

    Nice job!

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Todd Lumbard says:

    Nice job

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Grant says:

    I could easily be wrong but it looked like you have a really crusty ecm ground strap. Could cause an intermittent open circuit which may have done in the original ecm.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jr Nelson says:

    I was waiting for that. Was sure, that it will run again,because i also was sure, that is the computer. I`m happy for this to be ON again. PCM gravity 🙂

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KEPA Murray says:

    Nice work. The in depth trouble shooting is always good.

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ian Mcleod says:

    Man I think I have muscle memory clicking the like button on this channel before Ray says anything, it's taking my brain sometime to catch up.

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars jason p says:

    u know u can run heater core hose to the tubes u dont need or run them to u vaccum lines the 5.8l 351w ive done that either way so if u run a heater core hose to the 2 tubes on each side where the header is ull be fine getting a smaller belt not easy i would remove all the canistors n stuff it will run betterive done it to my 90 ford f150 4.9l inline 6 ran better wen i did it n i have 850k orginal miles n never been rebuilt yet full tune ups fluid changes n im still running straight prestonei thought i throw that out there i know fords i dealt with them for 35 yrs ford cars trucks n dump trucks 96 n older easier to work on love the videos

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ludi Neethling says:

    Well done Ray.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Derrick Anderson says:

    Way to go.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ᗒᗕ MIKE HUNT ᗒᗕ says:

    Well done Ray 😎. You showed some real determination with that van. 👌

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Gregusjay says:

    Woo hoo !!!!!

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joe Seabert says:

    Good job

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rexen Prime says:

    Whats the story with this van? Is it a customers or did Ray get this himself to fix or…?

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars nic says:

    intro nearly blinded me 😵‍💫

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Pirisky says:

    Good job Ray.

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars gwcracker says:

    Damn, act like you've fixed one before!

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stephane Neron says:

    I'm gonna say one thing Ray…. Your intro was great in your previous video. There's something new and its not as great idea.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mugz91 says:

    Nice!

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jim Mac Donald says:

    How about an update on the shop expansion

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sandmansa says:

    Nice work resurrecting that beast and getting it to a point where it can move under it's own power again Ray. Well done.

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars News Now Riverside Sgt Rock says:

    Did you say you left your nuts on the firewall?

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars News Now Riverside Sgt Rock says:

    Love that "Gravity!"

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Denny J says:

    Ray, you're a genius at electronics! Resurrected the DOA old Ford, too!

  37. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ian flegg says:

    Dam , I was sure it was low tyre pressure 😄

  38. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark Diesel says:

    Great diag and job super Ray 👌

  39. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Old man huppiedos says:

    Always nice to have success

  40. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars edgeofvamp says:

    Ray, leave the air pump. It blows cooler air into the back of the engine bay and helps keep that doghouse from becoming nuclear and keeps the fumes down. LOL

  41. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Carsten Ehlert says:

    Nice 🙂

  42. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Szczys says:

    My truck ( ranger ) was on its way to the yard. Cam belt broke and a guy was going to buy it for the wheels on it and junk the rest. I was checking it out to use and so the guy said you get it, I have too many already, so I got it, fixed belt, exhaust and various other little things.
    After almost 10 years I'm still driving it.

  43. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars awstott says:

    Looking at the wiring diagrams it looks like the fuses by that buzzing relay are supposed to be 30A unless I was reading it wrong? Looks like there is 60A in there right now?

  44. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Clint Price says:

    Nice diagnosis Ray! I didn’t expect anything other than a success!

  45. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vilhelm Boor says:

    You will find if you open the old box it probably has a reasonably large electrolytic capacitor in it value about 1000 uf 16V that has a lifespan ane its past that. The plastic on it probably has shrunk or the top is bulging. A few bucks and the thing is fixed. Did a Mitsubishi Magna, same deal.

  46. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars john carter says:

    Just a question, is it worth working on such old cars? Thanks for the videos

  47. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars M says:

    👍

  48. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Uncle Ned says:

    Huh. So my hunch of a blockage in the air intake system was wrong. Well diagnosed! There's a reason why you're making the videos in your own shop and I'm just writing comments on them.

  49. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hoser Man says:

    How about the vette?

  50. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Hageman says:

    All of us who fix things know the joy you experienced when the motor ran. Ir's why we do it and why I enjoy watching others do it.

  51. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pete Eats says:

    Yay!!!!

  52. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rob B says:

    Great fix RainMan. You nailed it with ECM

  53. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeffry P King says:

    Ray: Great video; had a '76 Pinto years ago that behaved similarly. New ECM and it ran like new. Question: In the background on the left side of the vid appears to be a '78 to '82 C-3 "vette. Is that for sale? Thanks Jeff

  54. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Roger Watts says:

    hahahaha… the cheering crowds at the end were a good laugh.

  55. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ChiefR says:

    Ya, Ray fixed Frankenstein's monster

  56. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars OURv says:

    Be cautious of removing emissions equipment because doing so
    would be in violation of federal law. A DIY, not a problem but as
    a commercial business, well, the law would look at you differently.

    !

  57. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Dernberger says:

    Great diagnostic work!

  58. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chuck Brown says:

    Another (unnamed) YouTuber would have whipped out all sorts of scopes on this one. 😄

  59. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Milwaukee Road Jim says:

    🎉🎉🎉🍀🍀🍀👍👍👍

  60. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John LaCroix says:

    TY,,,,,,WOW incredible very interesting great information super kool,

    AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.

  61. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Carl Evans says:

    Another fine job

  62. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Paul Santos says:

    The only radio it needs is the factory Ford radio without cassette nor CD. Still have one in my closet from a '93 Escort that I kept alive and running well 'till it went to the scrapyard in circa 2019. Rear shock towers rusted away.

  63. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Eric Erickson says:

    Good diag and repair, Ray! It's always nice to prove yourself to be correct!

  64. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kasey Foust says:

    Ran into a pcm on a 93 f150 4.9l last weekend. Fuel pump continuous running with koeo, hard start bad idle, and no self check. Put a cardone pcm in it it started rite up purred like a kitten

  65. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rodney Wise says:

    What a great series of videos! Ray brought the van back from its brink of death, using some old school analysis, and still made it look easy!

  66. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Uncle Moose says:

    Great job 👍

  67. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Big Al says:

    Well done. Will you sell it now or use it as a parts pickup vehicle? Those are great if you scrap out the cargo bay and have some tie downs. Pick up used engins and transmissions with forklift have zero issues fitting in rear. Also easy to remove with winch like the one I bough from Harbor freight. I think it would be a great if you gutted it out and set up places to hold parts etc. for pick up and not worry about the oil or grease

  68. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sea Stone says:

    Heck yeah Ray. Resurruss Maximus!!!

  69. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tada Kitty Gaming says:

    had a "YES!" moment on Monday with an 04 Pontiac Grand Am. Would crank but not start without force feeding it fuel, so to speak, and the guy selling it didn't know what it was for sure, turned out to be a 10 amp fuse was blown in the fuse box. Fuse 37 if anyone else is having a similar issue.

    Edit: The car would turn over but wouldn't start without spraying some starting fluid into the air intake, once it was started it ran rough(or sounded rough to me). Replaced the fuse and she started right up with no starting fluid.

  70. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Walter Francis says:

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  71. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Greg Adams says:

    It Lives!

  72. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Victor Santamaria says:

    So I love my 300k truck… And can't afford a car note, so i understand why someone would spend a pretty penny on fixing a old vehicle. I'd love to hear how much is spent, by the owner. So i can gauge future repairs

  73. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Reith says:

    Excellent work ….Ray… good work on figuring out the issue. I applaud you on a great diagnosis…💯👍👍👍

  74. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Thomas Unsworth says:

    Well done …. great fix

  75. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Papa Toms Thoughts says:

    Great save there

  76. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Richie Rich says:

    Golden wrench award goes to…. Rainman Ray never lets his audience or customer down!! #1

  77. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rhon Parris says:

    You got it so easy. When I was in the Air Force we had huge schematics with no numbered lines from page to page

  78. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars axelraver says:

    Hey you train unit, stop polluting the video 🤣🤣

  79. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TOM2RN says:

    Time to run some BG44K in that bad boy.

  80. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars brian lee says:

    👍🏻we luv Ray. Good Job 😬

  81. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Great Lambrini says:

    I still don’t understand the thought behind saving this vehicle. It’s a major polluter and a piece of crap.

  82. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ChrisD4335 says:

    seems like as lot of money to put in an old van

  83. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Megan Paull says:

    Excellent job well done 👍

  84. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars W3BZ says:

    🤠👍

  85. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pete N says:

    Nice resurrection of the old beater. Make a nice Florida rat van out of it. Big bush guard out front for intimidation and "Get off my ass" bumper sticker out back.

  86. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars T R says:

    I appreciate your videos – the best part is these are also closed captioned as i am hard of hearing THANK YOU !!

  87. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Longeno55 says:

    VICTORY IS OURS! I MEAN YOURS!!! (I got caught up in the moment.)

  88. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jon N says:

    That's a former Airborne Express van back in the day.

  89. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 135SoHc says:

    Crazy to see just how similar the Ford PCM/ECM connector is to the Chrysler PCM/EMC connector from the same era. The same 60 way connector format but ever so slight different indexing features.

  90. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dynamic1964 says:

    Good job, Ray! 👍

  91. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Loki Games says:

    Great job ray I never lost faith, your the rainman 🤘🤘

  92. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Longeno55 says:

    I assume your vast experience aids your troubleshooting abilities, but dang, you truly are the Rainman of auto techs!

  93. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Denton says:

    Re: hardware on gravel, grass, etc. -most being ferrous based, react to and come to magic. it's called a magnet. 😁😎

  94. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars twwtb says:

    Deeez nutz, bofa dem. Hidden in plain sight on the hood lip thingy where everybody loses their nuts. Super good diagnostic on this one. You methodically eliminated other possibilities before going after the PCM/ECM.

  95. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bill in Phoenix says:

    It looks like it's seen SOME USE, but 700K might be pushing it, LOL Is this yous or a customers ?

  96. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Guy Poole says:

    Hi, you seem to know your F series, even though your a GM guy, how viable is swapping the 460ci from my 1978 E350 motor home for a later injected V8 say the dreaded 4 valve 5.3 litre I have in my 2006 F250? I'm in Australia, so the parts cannon would be worse….any suggestions for better MPG and reliability??? Regards Guy

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