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Hello everybody! Good day to you! Welcome back! We're headed outside to uh go fetch a uh red in color Hyundai uh. Customer states that the wheel looks like it's falling off. Let's get over there and see what's going on with it. So far.

the front wheels look good. check Yeah, the wheel's not very straight. I think it's this one that's affected. It looks kind of straight to me.

It's cambered in a little bit. Uh, there were some previous repairs down in that corner and it appears that they have failed. So, uh, since they state that our wheels are falling off and that there's a clanky banging noise associated with the concern I'm not going to drive this thing, we're just gonna nose it on in, get it up in the lift and see what's going on. Uh, maybe a bolt fell out or something.

Who knows. I have uh I've never worked on this car before. It is new to me and new to us I can't see there we go. got into the shade.

there's a lot of a lot of pollen and dirt and whatnot going on right now. It's heavy pollinated season hot in here so let us. uh, let's get this up in the air. let's check out the rear suspension, see if I can fix it.

see what's going on? I Don't know. but like I said, we're gonna find out. So stay tuned because this is gonna be a very good video opening the hood. Yeah, let me just go ahead and get this thing racked up real quick.

like and uh, we'll see what the dealio is with this. Uh, this particular. Hyundai lift arm number two. There we go.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. something's going on here. Look at that. It's uh, much more cambered than it was.

Uh, out in the parking lot. That's a lot of camber and a lot of tow. See, it's pointed out towards us and leaned in at the top. That's not.

Uh, that's not gonna work. Something is wrong here. What if they hit something and vent some suspension? You hear one more look that right there into the pinch weld. Good to go.

Moving on up from that subscribe button all the way up and on the locks for safety. All right, let's see what's going on with this wheel here. Uh, it's not okay. Look at that.

what it is, something is. Something's coming apart. All right. Yeah, that's not okay.

What do we got going on here? Lower control arm that's in good shape. Bolt it in up front that's new. All Right Bingo Bingo Look at that control arm. bolt is uh, is not present.

It's missing. Why? ooh, hang on here, We have some damage. Let's get some lumens in that little hole there. Let's see what's going on.

Something's not. uh, not okay here. I Saw some metal slivers right there. You see that it's not looking good.

Okay, we're gonna try to try to zoom in a little bit here if I can and see what the deal is with this. uh, this bolt business right here. I Believe we've got some thread damage going on. Oh no.

look at that. threads are gone. That's uh, that's not okay. Bushing looks good.

Yeah I think I don't know if I can fix that. It's a light in there if I can manage it. Yeah I don't know I don't I don't know if I can. Uh, that's part of the threads inside of the subframe.
See that? Yeah, that's that's not. That's not okay. Okay So we have subframe damage. Yeah, that's a there's another view of it.

See, the threads are completely completely gone out of there. There's there's a little bit left, but nothing. Uh, nothing for a bolt to grab onto. I Don't know if I can fix that.

Maybe a time sir to a heli coil? perhaps I but then again, I won't be able to really drill into it either. Um, this isn't cool. Tell you what. Let's uh, let me pull the the bolt out of this other side over here and see how long it is.

Maybe maybe I can get a longer one that's going to match up to the threads on this side because I see threads farther down that hole a little bit. It's it's tough for you guys to see. Yeah, if we look down farther, there are some threads left over. If I can get a hold of those, then maybe I can secure this again.

I Mean it might need a subframe too it. I should probably get another subframe. That's probably where where this might end up. Landing Yeah, let's go ahead and pull that out real quick and see how long that bolt is.

Maybe I can get a longer one. Um, it looks like that runs all the way through. Perhaps I could put a bolt in a nut on it. That's doable.

Yeah, I'm sure I can fix this. Okie doke. So this right here. this is our left rear upper control arm bolt.

I'm gonna pull this guy out. unclick these I'm gonna go ahead and pull this one out. That's going to give us an idea of the length and the thread thread pitch and thread type. Oh no, my battery's dead.

Hang on. Hang on. Epic Fail Okay, trying again. round to Fresh batteries.

It's green so you know it's good. I'm out. alrighty. so we've got our Bolt and I need to find another type of bolt that uh, that I can use to to patch up that other side.

I'm thinking if I get one that can pass all the way through, we can put a nut on this other side right here. See a little hole right there? We can put a nut on it and that should secure this thing. I think I believe that's the same same hole going through. Yeah, let's let's try that for a plan.

and if it fails, then uh, then we'll put a subframe. I'm gonna need some working space here. so I think I'll just go ahead and pull this control arm out all the way. Get that thing out of here and then we'll go from there.

Okay, so this other bolt over here that's got a nut on the other side? I'm just going to get in there with the uh, the long flexi ratchet here and take the nut loose. Unclicks please. Oh, that's flipping tight. Got it? Lost a flashlight and caught it? I have defeated gravity today.

That's a bold statement with a car lingering above my head that made that weird sound. Hmm. tempting fate. Let's get this guy out of here.
Oh, you know what guys. I Feel bad I Didn't even figure out what the mileage was on this. It's really relevant. It's not really a common failure, so I guess we can revisit that later.

Anyway, here's our control arm. There's no damage to it. Set this thing aside. we'll need that later.

I'm gonna need to figure out I Didn't figure out the bolt that I need here. Okay, all right so I'm gonna poke a hole through this with the screwdriver just to make sure that goes all the way through. and the survey says it does. And look at that.

There's metal shards all over that screwdriver bit? It's a magnetic bit. This thing's covered metal chunks. See how those threads are? Uh, they're schwaisted. those things are junk.

Oh, look at that. Oh yeah, yeah, those are all pieces of threads on the other bolts. so it must have gone in Cross threaded. or maybe it was loose and it just kind of wiggled around until it yanked the threads out.

Hmm as I look down I can see about halfway down that there are threads in there. but I don't know if I can really get to them. Let's uh, let me blow out all the dirt or the uh, the debris. Let's blow everything out and I'll try to run that other bolt into that to see if I can even catch those threads.

I'm afraid I don't really have a plan of action here. This is not a a common kind of failure situation. I don't I don't really have like a Playbook to work off of. Oh I'll figure it out.

troubleshooting, get rid of all the metal chunks. goodbye foreign. Let's grab our left side known good Bolt From over here and see if this thing is going to catch the threads or not. Maybe it will.

Maybe it won't and it's it's really not. I don't think I have a cap this size either. Okay, I mean I can see them. They're they're in there.

Looks like there's a good inch or so of thread, but the trouble is is, how do I get to them I could I can't now I was thinking maybe I could run a tap from the other side or run a bolt in from the other side to clean those up. That's not going to work either I don't think I have a drill bit. that's gonna. it's gonna work for us if I go in there with a drill bit I don't know if I can make a cut clean enough to get to the threads that are still good I may have to just drill those out and put in a nut.

Um I don't want to do. All these options do not sound very good to me. Let's get a depth measurement. No.

Okay, first let me decontaminate my screwdriver here. All right. so let's see how deep this hole really is. So we're gonna go.

and until it pokes out, see it poking right there and we can measure from the other side with my flange? Come here. Okay, that's that's actually a really long hole. so if that's how much I have to work with, my other threads are, probably, well, we can see the witness marks on this one takes up about an inch which means my damage threaded section is that far back in the hole or no. No.
I have to account for the control arm which is going to say flush here and that's gonna okay I don't know what to do I don't know how to fix this What do I do I get a smaller Bolt I can't use a smaller Bolt because if I do then it's going to flop around in this control arm bushing. see that's designed to fit very very tightly in there with almost no clearance. So my threaded section on the control or on the on the subframe that's about an inch and a quarter deep I could get a longer Bolt I'm afraid to do that I don't know what to do. What do I do? What do you guys think I should do? Let me know down in the comments: I'm gonna think about it for a little while.

Stay right here. Don't go anywhere see I'm not going to do a heli coil and I'm not going to try to put a Time cert in there. This is. uh, this Fastener is much more important than uh, risking it on some kind of thread repair kit.

I mean realistically, we need to put a subframe in this. Um I Need a lathe? Anybody got a lathe I can borrow? Okay, think, think, think, think, think, think What do I do? How do I make this wheel stay straight I might have to pull the fuel tank down I don't want to do that either I would like to fix this easily I Think I'm gonna have to I'm gonna do a nut and a bolt I need to find a longer bolt and then just drill those boogered up threads out of that. I I Really think that's all I can do? Yeah I may have to pull the exhaust down to get the drill to fit Maybe Yeah, let's let me see if I've got a bit. Maybe I have a drill bit.

That's uh, this thread size. Maybe I don't I had. Okay, I've got a half inch bit. that's my largest one and that is not large enough.

Cut the threads out of this. It's pretty close. Let's try it. And even so I don't know if I've got space to get the drill in there.

Yeah, that's not enough. It's not gonna work I need a bigger one? Okay, so I've been pacing around for like five minutes trying to figure out what to do. and I know somewhere in here I've got an old box full of very large Hardware because I was saving that from the dealership days when I took a a fifth wheel hitch out of a truck and I think I have all the stuff. Uh, that's not it.

That's the set of porches. Maybe this one. I've got like four or five of these bins around here. Maybe this is the one here we go.

Here's some. Hardwares Um, let's see. we need one that's this long. That's not it.

There's some bracketry I'm not going to use that, that's not gonna work. Ooh ooh, maybe possibly maybe. Yeah, we're going somewhere. some washers.

Let's go see. Let's just go see. these are high grade bolts I think the ones that are in there were grade eight or grade 10. maybe one of these will work to the bench.

Here's some space here on my my messy pile of stuff. It's organized in my mind, don't worry. Um, let's see there's our old Bolt It's definitely got the length. Yeah, look at here to the damaged part which is going to be that part on uh on the subframe that ends right at the shank.
The question is, is this going to be long enough to pass through? Okay, let's find out. The only way to find out is to find out, right? So if this passes through and then the shank is thick enough, we actually might have a winner. That would, uh that would surprise me. Okay, it goes through.

see how much space we have on the other side here lumens and the survey says not enough Oh so close. Look at it like it almost reaches I Need this plus one more inch? I'm getting there. let's check. Uh, let's check the shank thickness that's a little thinner ever so slightly.

No dang, it was close. it was so close. Okay, so what I need is one of these that's one inch longer than this one with a slightly thicker shank in a pinch. lock nut: this is just a regular nut I don't want to use that I think I need to go to the store.

All right, All right, real quick. I'm breaking out the Mitutoyo calipers. We're gonna measure this real quick and just get the right flank uh or shank diameter like five four, seven inches point five four seven inches and this one point four nine four. so it's a it's a few thou short I'm gonna take these this and this and uh, we're gonna go to the bolt store see if I can't find a replacement uh bolt to pass through that subframe.

Otherwise I'm gonna have to put a subframe in this car and I don't want to do that. Not for some strip threads. All right, let's get out of here. Let's go find our uh, find our replacement.

Fasteners put that stuff over you under field trip Road Trip Staunting's the engine and it's hot in here I Need cool air now? Yeah, we're warming up. Check that out. 86 degrees outside. Man humidity is not bad.

41.7 percent relative humidity I'll take that. that's cool. better than 90. Rock Row I've got a 40 minute Crosstown drive and the place closes in 41 minutes.

so I might make it I might not I really hope I make it I Called the guy he's like hey, you get here before we close, we're good. If you get here after, uh, we'll probably not good. So I'm I am uh, kind of trying to get my butt across the bridge. we need to get across town More Steam Well I Picked a great time to drive across two cities for a bowl.

3 30 in the afternoon. we're in rush hour. Hey, it's more like traffic jam hour. We're not rushing anywhere, we're just kind of creeping along cruising through town.

This is about as fast as I've gone since the bridge. 22 miles per hour and breaks. We're done. Yay! I Got like three more bridges to go over.

That one's straight traffic jammed I'm not coming this way on the way back. Okay, yeah, you know you messed up when the bridges are red on Google Maps but it sure is pretty out there. Nice day, all right. You know every time I see the water I wish I had a boat and then every time I think about having a boat I remember the last boat that I had and I loved my last boat.
it was the best boat ever because it was mine and I got to go on it whatever I wanted. But it's true about what they say about boats. They're your happiest days of the day. You buy your boat and the day you sell your boat.

And I can attest I've owned a couple boats and I always like getting them and I always like getting rid of them. It's that's just how they are and simply because of those reasons: I I can't bring myself to have a boat I I'm just not just not in boat life anymore. can't do it. Plus I live really far from the ocean and I would never get to use my boat at the frequency that I would want to use my boat.

So it's pretty much a Dave Ramsey style upside down investment because it's it's an expense with no return on a depreciating asset. and I just I can't do it I Really want one too I Really I really do I want one so bad? But it's just not not in the cards. Not gonna happen I know better. So damn boats.

So this is the convention center where they have the gun show that you see the signs for that are on the billboard in my parking lot at that place over there haha I think I made it time to spare I've got uh 15 minutes before they close. This is good. Got here faster than I thought. All right, but there she is at the Fastenal Place They've got bolts and hardware and things of that nature.

We've been here before. This is the Fulfillment center where I had my AC machine shipped too. The sidewalk is closed. that's not okay.

doesn't look close right up front. Perfect parking. Ziato, that's it. Yep, close enough.

powering down made it all right. Let's grab the goodies here and uh I don't think I need the calipers. Maybe I do I'll take them anyway. let's grab the goods and uh, gravity.

go see if I can find a replacement bolt. it's gonna work truck. I've got the goods we need the AC again restarting the engine. Here's what we've got: I've got a longer high grade bolt I Had to buy the multi-pack Got some pinch lock nuts to go with it.

You see the indentations here here and here. These these holes are actually ovular shaped and they're not circular like a regular nut so it won't just it won't just spin freely so it kind of locks itself as you put it on. I'm probably gonna double nut that and and thread lock it since I am doing like a through bolt application. So back to the shop we go.

Let's return to our Hyundai and uh, see if we can't get this thing back together and see if it's gonna if it's gonna work or not. I Think it's gonna work I Hope it's gonna work I Know it's gonna work all right. we are back at the shop space. Let's run inside and see if this is going to work.
Fingers crossed. What do you guys think? Is it gonna work? Is it safe? Is it gonna stay safe? We're gonna find out. Powering down and I Gotta tell you I'm slipping. We've had like seven powering Downs in this video and no mention of vehicle mileage.

That's terrible. Terrible production quality. Oh well. stuff happens.

that's I Guess that's how it is when you're doing 47 000 things at one time. Illumination powering on another one. There you are. Hyundai All right, let's put that stuff right there.

Let's get the door back open again for some ventilation action. and I know what you're thinking. What if you got robbed, robbed and it's okay I have a velociraptor there you go. Grab that guy right there.

Band back on. Awesome! Okay, let's get back to it. So I guess the first thing we need to be doing here is seeing if the uh, the length is going to be appropriate. I did end up getting pinch lock nuts so I'm not going to use just a a regular Fastener and it's going to make it more safer.

There we go. Oh bolt gravity. Come here. Get over here too much coffee.

Let's see, we're gonna run this guy all the way through. Get in there, that's pretty close and I don't I think I failed I think I completely failed I didn't take into account the thickness to the control arm. oh I just did all that for nothing I totally dropped the ball I think hang on I'm I was happy now I'm I quit I Can't believe I didn't think the way that I thought I should have been thinking hang on I just drove an hour and spent 40 bucks for no reason. Oh this.

Why foolishness? foolishness? What have you done? Hang on here. Get some light up here that's totally screwed up, you know I knew it the second that I put this bolt in that subframe I knew it and this was the longest one that they had too. So if this isn't gonna work, then uh, we're gonna need to put a subframe in it. Come on.

Ray I can't really eat it. Whoa. there we go. I can't believe I just did that I mean who knows? maybe it'll fit.

Maybe maybe I just turned into an instant pessimist I don't know. Let's get that thing in. Come on bolt. get in your home.

Ratchet? Yeah. I Really think I underestimated this big time I didn't do it right? Go on. Is it going to go through or not? Let's uh, what's the deal here? Hammer? Well I believe the issue is is this, uh, control arm? is? it's uh, it's kind of putting a Twist on this and that's why that's not going to go in. You know? Yeah, I need to take this thing back out.

I'm going about this all wrong. In fact I've been going about it all wrong this entire time when I should just be ordering a subframe. That's what I need to be doing. Okay, that's all the way through 100 all the way through.

The issue was is the control arm was binding and I don't have enough bolts on this side. Stupid I didn't account for the thickness of the of the control arm so that was a giant waste of my time. Okay, fail. Epic fail I'm I don't know what to do now these are the longest bolts and I told the guy I needed one about an inch or so longer than the one that I brought and the one that I brought went all the way through the full length of the subframe.
but I didn't account for the width of the control arm so that was a big giant waste of time. Oh angry. Well, since that was a the biggest bonehead move of the year so far and I got absolutely nowhere with this car, uh, I've got to figure out what to do next and it's probably going to be another longer bolt. maybe that that's my only choice is to try to find one I may have to order it I don't know but uh, the time being.

um, well I'm dead in the water I screwed up I miscalculated and I paid the price for it in a whole lot of wasted time. click So that being said, I have no choice. Uh, this was a failed repair attempt. Nothing to see here.

I'm all done I'm gonna go ahead and close this video out. Thank you guys for watching this failure. Um I am gonna post this because why not? That's what happened today. Uh I'm gonna leave that in there for now.

Uh no, this car is not driving anywhere but I'd rather have that thing there. kind of stabilizing this as opposed to just letting the wheel if you flop around all willing to like. So uh, like I said I'm done. There's nothing more for me to do I need to get more bolts I Guess that's going to be a 2B Continued maybe not I I don't know I I might have to finish up for a minute because I I really don't know if I can find a longer bolt that's going to be uh, it's going to be suitable for this application.

So uh, that being said, as always and again, thank you guys for watching this video. I Hope you enjoy this video I Can tell you right now I did not enjoy making it I'm very disappointed in myself and kind of embarrassed because I I told myself to not make that mistake and then I went did what I said I wasn't going to do I don't even know what I was thinking. this brain did not function anyway. I'm rambling.

So as always again, thank you guys for watching. And most importantly, don't forget to have yourself a great day! See you guys later! End of evil Hyundai.

96 thoughts on “Customer states: my mechanic messed up! wheel falling off! 2011 hyundai sonata #mechanic”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Burton J says:

    Didn't show us the miles on the car??

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Squirrel Covers says:

    A five minute fix dragged out to a half hour video.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joe Vaagen says:

    Personally I would have cleaned the threads of what is left in there then gotten a longer bolt with 1/2 to 3/4 longer threads and put a locknut on the backside. I am NOT an ASE certified mechanic BUT am mechanically inclined and somewhat a logical person.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jay Criqui says:

    just find a longer bolt and get her DONE!!!!

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TraceElements195.084 says:

    Remember the Ford Pinto. Just make sure the bolt tip will not pierce the fuel tank in a rear end collision.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars jethro66 says:

    Get a rod at the right length and make your own threads

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! ccmoos says:

    One thing: when you want to freshen up threads, you can cut two grooves in the tip of the new bolt, making it cut like a tap. This is very helpfull if you don't have the correct tap laying around.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vincenzo Accetta says:

    The best of us make mistakes, too. You're one of the best mechanics from many others. Don't you have a pick n pull junk yard there?..

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars HumJ says:

    Maybe go through the effort of acquiring the correct tap. Then drop gas tank and tap in from there. Locktight bolt from dealer. It would be a bit of a risk to tap the hole from the obviously accessible side. So many options. U did good. Never a bad idea in a horrible situation like this. I hate picking up after others crap.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Beto Mendez says:

    Thx ray I don't feel Soo bad at all the mistakes I have made like this one. Shit happens!!!!

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars G Hodder says:

    Chin up Ray. Anyone who wrenches cars, whether professionally or in their own driveway will, eventually, make a mistake that wastes time and money. I have no doubt you'll figure this out and finish the job to the customer's satisfaction. At least it is a Florida car and sub-frame is not rusted and falling apart.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Charles Laing says:

    You can make a temporary tap from a high-carbon bolt (Grade 10) by grinding "flutes" on the sides of the threads, then hardening the bolt by heating and quenching. If all you need to do is to chase existing threads that can work. Of course you need a second unground bolt to install it in the repaired threads.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jim B says:

    So glad to see others make mistakes as silly as the ones I make. Still an entertaining video.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jim Pert says:

    You can make a tap with a bolt..

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars whiteeagle58 says:

    Ray, stop beating yourself up over this….. we all have days like this and all we can do is accept the temporary set back and move forward. So here is the best temporary solution …… Get a piece of all thread, cut it to the length you need then weld one of the pinch lock nuts to one end of the rod and then ….. well you know the rest. Tell the customer you have installed a temporary fix until he can have you put a new subframe in. You got this Ray you always do. Rock it like you own it.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Craig Chase says:

    Another idea is, if you know someone with a lathe, they could machine the exact bolt you need.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Infante says:

    It would easy to armchair quarterback and shout "No!" at the screen. Watch til the end. Great job Ray you tried to work around an impossible work-around. The frustration is real man.

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Greg Detweiler says:

    I almost thought this would be the vehicle that lost a wheel and sent a Kia flying

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars F.K. Burnham says:

    You might try a heavy equipment/ industrial/ logging supplier for the bolt. Sadly the company you went to has proven unable to supply hardware I have needed. (How do you" lose" a RFQ for 40K pieces of hardware?)

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Forrest Holt says:

    If you don’t make mistakes, you’re not doing anything!

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steven Kelley says:

    Anytime you learn something it is never a waste of your time! You were in a hurry to get to the bolt store and didn't think it through as you always do. There is no reason to beat yourself up over it.

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris jack says:

    add this e sorry

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars James Adams says:

    Be careful about putting a longer bolt with a nut on it that close to a fuel tank. Could be opening up a huge liability issue if the car ever get rear-ended and that subframe gets pushed forward into the tank. You could be creating a Pinto situation all over again. At minimum, if you are going to put a bolt all the way through drop the tank and put the bolt through from the front. Then only the head thickness would be near the tank.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars JD Project says:

    Grade 8 threaded rod, pinch nut on either end with red Loctite, and Bob's your Uncle. These Korean Vehicles are absolute junk, From the engines blowing out to every other malfunctioning thing on them.

    Could you imagine if these were used in Korea, and not just exported, There must be tens of thousands of really pissed off Korean mechanics in that country.

    So, did you really fail in this repair, big time no, I'm sure Miracle Worker is not on your sign of your shop, and know that there were probably hundreds of mechanics that went through this before you.

    Big loss of face for Hyundai for putting crap out on the market.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dan House says:

    Ray, have you ever made a TAP out of a bolt? You just need to cut 3 notches in the end. I usually use a triangle file. But it can be done other ways.😎

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris jack says:

    yelled the thickness of the control arm but you couldn't hear me on the other sid of the pacific ocean

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Manke says:

    It's a customers car. Replace the subframe. Great video with a lot of learning-experience! Maybe your best ever!
    It's a customers car. Replace the subframe. Great video with a lot of learning-experience! Maybe your best ever!
    It's a customers car. Replace the subframe. Great video with a lot of learning-experience! Maybe your best ever!
    It's a customers car. Replace the subframe. Great video with a lot of learning-experience! Maybe your best ever!
    It's a customers car. Replace the subframe. Great video with a lot of learning-experience! Maybe your best ever!

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Don says:

    Tap it!!

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Scott Lamberson says:

    WOW… so you ARE human… ok… well that's a surprise.. but don't beat yourself up too much..

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joe Haney says:

    Should try Totally Stainless out. They have suspension shoulder bolts. You could get the correct OD for arm and smaller thread to make it through sub.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark Tiitto says:

    Somebody been in the brakes Ya gotta pull that outer bolt loosen the the liner one

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Carl Evans says:

    We all have those days

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Fred Proctor says:

    Everything happens for a reason. Full believer in that. No worries, you'll fix it one way or another.

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brian Sarty says:

    sorry about your day Ray. Sometimes the misery of others is fun to watch, but not when it's Ray. Go Kiss the wife and kids, pat the dog, and have a better tomorrow.

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jacob M says:

    Idkwhat you ended up doing, but if it were MY car I'd just put a nut on the other side of that hole and call it a day

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wallace Loper says:

    As you said find a machine shop and have them make it. that what I did (go are no go gage) that the company wouldn't buy.
    20.00. time saver just saying

  37. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike says:

    For what its worth you should pull the sub frame and clan up those threads.

  38. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rod Carruesco says:

    Aww dude 😎 would have tried a tap first, and a boat is a whole in the water that you fill with money 🤑

  39. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Adrienne Fraschetta says:

    We all do dummy moves, we are only human..

  40. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tim B says:

    Flip that door to open in.

  41. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Teresa bashaw says:

    Get the proper tap, the original bolt starts to thread,so a tap should allow you to clean those threads that remain. Get a longer metric bolt, and Bobs your auntie !!

  42. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hank's Adventures says:

    Longer bolt with same thread pitch, and send it. There should be enough threads left to hold further back. If there is not, then get a tap the same thread pitch and tap as deep as possible. You will get a bite further back for sure

  43. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike says:

    Unless you fish buy a jetski!

  44. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Davis says:

    Buy you a stick of all thread and finish both ends with a ny-loc. Simple fix without cursing.

  45. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andy Samuelson says:

    Simply call the store and tell them the length you need. If they don't have it in stocks, they can get it for you. The bag they came in will have the specs you need. Only the length is wrong. They were grade 8 bolts and the toplock nuts will fit that you have. Trust me, it happens to all of us.

  46. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars James Richardson says:

    What store closess at 4pm!!! On a weekday??

  47. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Peter Ouellette says:

    Cut the head of the bolt off put it in backwards allow for the part and weld it in

  48. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ZOOM WITH SMOKEY BEAR says:

    It is not good to drop your caliper common the reason why he will knock it out of sequence

  49. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris Freemesser says:

    Ray is human and makes mistakes. I'm so disillusioned… 😉

  50. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mr. Tall-man says:

    Ray you had a day that goes like my days each time I work on my car or do a project around my house. I think we all feel ya buddy.

  51. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 61 Rampy says:

    Ray is usually so good at disguising his anger or frustrations, but this time, it got to him. Haven't we all made a dumb mistake and then beat ourselves up for it? I have a mental picture of Ray throwing some tools across he shop after the camera turned off. I hope he films the final repair, though.

  52. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Charlie sw9ve says:

    Longer bolt and a nut for me. My opinion before finishing video. 👍

  53. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MJB says:

    Don't feel like you are the only one who has ever done this. I'm sure almost everyone who has spent any amount of time working on cars has done this. I was screaming at you your whole way to the store, trying to tell you were going to get the wrong size.

  54. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zepplin76 says:

    I'm glad to see that even you stumble with stuff you're great at. The humble pie you served has a slice we all need to grab I'm sure.

  55. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @97TJ_WESTEND says:

    I think you're still tired from taking care of sick kids.

  56. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ati Kovi says:

    I coulda told ya you forgot the thickness of the that control arm when measuring the bolt, but when I saw you measuring in inches, I knew you were going to screw yourself anyway. This isn't a 30 year old American car. Everything is metric today. I would: 1) use a carbide burr and hog out the threads. 2) go online and find a place that specializes in nuts and bolts. Fastenal is a waste of time and never have anything in stock unless it very common. 3) get a flange bolt and nut. Stop dickin around with washers. And use the same diameter as the original. It might take a few days longer but the customer will understand vs. the cost of a new subframe. If you can't wait and want to do ghetto repair, you can use a piece of threaded rod, but that's nowhere as strong.

  57. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jim Jaques says:

    Hi Ray. Always an option… if you get a tap the size of the initial thread you should be able to run it in from the other side. It will be much shorter than the bolt. Then get a bolt with the same thread that is the length of the ones you bought. You will have enough threads and the correct diameter bolt. Putsome lick tight on it just in case ; )

  58. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Cam Houck says:

    I’d find the proper tap, of the same thread pitch of the original bolt, and chase it through. Still get a longer bolt that matches the chased threads and reaches to the other side and back it with a pinch nut like you planned. You’ll be golden.

  59. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark Lowther says:

    Drill and put a longer bolt with a nut.

  60. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ed Frawley says:

    Well, I was as surprised as you were. I had just assumed that you would just take the OG bolt and ask for "This one but one inch longer". That was def a mistake I would make so no judgement from me. Just out of curiosity, Does Fastenal carry drill bits as well as fasteners? Last time I had a screwed up job like this one I was able to pull my butt out of the fire by purchasing a 1/2" impact and a couple of sockets ( I was away from home and not expecting to be turning wrenches). On the positive side You WILL be fully prepared on your next trip.

  61. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! William Mann says:

    Though you messed up…this was still educational. Glad you uploaded.

  62. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Paul Beaudet says:

    Have Abom79 make you a bolt, he's in Florida's armpit somewhere.

  63. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Halter says:

    How about threaded rod and put a nut on each end. you can cut the rod to whatever lenght you need .

  64. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars C S says:

    Go to s welding shop and buy bar stock in the diameter and grade you need. Then buy a tap and die set. Cut bar for length. Die each end. Lock nut as needed.
    The cost of the tools is the profit from the job.

  65. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mr hamburger says:

    I remember years ago at a gas station to get gas and I went in pay for the gas some guy came in sad to the person behind the counter guess what and he said what my transmission fell out he said you just fixed my transmission then I left I thought that was weird

  66. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars William says:

    We’ve all been there!👍🇺🇸

  67. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 2eagle86 says:

    Eric the car guy would've just welded it 😁

  68. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars mike walker says:

    As your attorney I advise you to replace the subframe assy.

  69. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Loki Games says:

    Nice try Ray,I am most confident you'll get it fixed.✌️✌️

  70. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Romance Mehanics says:

    Ah seen this come back many times. never understood why people take off that bolt when replacing brakes. for those who don't know. you remove the other end of that lateral link to get access to the caliper bolt bracket. some people take off both ends but i find that just causes possible issues like this one :p

  71. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 111sconeful says:

    Die cut new threads use bolt with the new threads. You can use the bolts to fasten together wood to make the kiddos a swing set. Just think Edison.

  72. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Phil Rizzo says:

    The trip was not wasted effort. You said they sold you the longest bolt they had, which turned out to be too short. Spit happens. So now you get to search for a longer bolt, knowing the correct (estimated) length. It's still going to be cheaper and quicker (yet perfectly adequate) compared to waiting for the slow boat from Korea with the OEM sub-frame part. No sweat. Don't beat yourself up, man!

  73. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars The Grievance Capitalist ® says:

    Longer bolt , force it through . If it doesn't hold . Put a nut on it . If that fails , new subframe .

  74. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Goldie Hatman says:

    Several people has suggested installing a new bolt with a nut, have some way to lock the nut in place like a castle nut. That will work but the main thing is to use a bolt the same diameter and the same hardness strength or harder. It has to have the same structural integrity or better. Don't want a crazy failure if the car goes over a pothole and gets into an accident. Can't use a smaller diameter bolt inside a sleeve.

  75. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Tinsley says:

    Hey shit happens I work on semi's and have done the same thing. 112 miles round trip for a 5/32 farrow fitting to realize they gave me a 1/4 fitting on a 14 hour clutch job all this over a 87 cent part.

  76. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars wayne mazan says:

    Ray shit happins… could do without the drive footage keepin ir real

  77. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Josh White says:

    McMaster-Carr. Get exactly the right bolt by 10am the next day

  78. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris says:

    Quote the subframe 100% it's a safety issue.

  79. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alaskan Lone Wolf says:

    Could also Lower fuel tank put that carige bolt in on that side and tack weld the end and nut the end with control arm then even if something happens it will still hold

  80. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pete N says:

    If it were MY car I'd put a longer bolt/nut. Someone else's car different story. Problem being there would be a bolt sticking out that might puncture the gas tank in a rear end crash, then you would be in trouble.

  81. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dennys854 says:

    Hard to futz together a cost effective repair. My take would to have gotten an M14 tap to clear through the buggered threads, then an M14x 200 ish mm with nut, run through the cleaned threads and nut off. Or M14 rod nutted both sides (gl finding that). 1/2" threaded rod but you need a thin inner steel bushing on the control arm.

  82. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rob Arnold says:

    longer bolt and put a nut on the other side?

  83. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Richard Larson says:

    Rebolting video! :))

  84. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jax Jackson says:

    Weld the nut to the inside of the sub frame. It did look like there was enough space.

    Or you could weld a stud. Like a shock mount would be done. Though it would effectively reverse the fastener.

  85. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Joshua Imel says:

    You should use your drill bits and wallow out the back of the hole and weld the nut to the end if the bolt goes far enough to reach it

  86. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! j karov says:

    Long grade 8 bolt with a sleeve that takes up the slack in the bushing, and a lock washer & grade 8 nut for the far end

  87. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Corey Carter says:

    Huh yun die for the pronunciation lol but awesome work!! love your videos.

  88. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bryon Nagle says:

    You need to replace the sun frame or your going to have lots of noises

  89. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars George Butterfield says:

    Perhaps you could use a stud with nuts.

  90. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Thomas Eskridge says:

    Thanks for the lesson, I have been down that path many times myself.

  91. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Grumpy_ShihTzu says:

    A for effort.

  92. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! NNitty Llojkoo says:

    Reclaimed sub frame from a scrap yard? No failures here only newly acquired knowledge.

  93. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Chris Hayden says:

    Use the same bolt after drilling out the boogered threads. Then, use the slot in the sub frame to get the proper nut on it. You CAN do it.

  94. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Papa Wheelie says:

    It's right there in the model name, Sonata…. So Not A good car. Had a girlfriend who's Sonata slid into a curb on the passenger's side rear and although still drivable, could not be properly re-aligned. Her insurance company totaled it ! 🤣

  95. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeff Ogden says:

    If it was my car I would find a longer bolt with the same threads and put a nut on it.

  96. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Maksim Starik says:

    Hi Ray . I think you can remove gas tank and weld nut on front . That would more safe . It would be less labor then removing subframe. When suspension travel under load in normal operation nut can possibly move up and down or side to side still .

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