In this video I bring you along as I "upgrade" Mrs.O's van with some of Rock Auto's Power Stop Z23 Evolution Sport brake pads and rotors. Is it really an upgrade? Will it really help with the rotors constantly "warping?" Time will tell but for now let's put them on and see how it goes. -Enjoy!
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Had issues with the store brand also. I've been installing power stop for years on customer cars. Just the daily driver pad and buy nothing else now. We did do a kit on my brother's G35 they worked great warmed up but not cold in the morning. Swapped pads and was good.
I installed Baer Rotors w/Red Hawk Pads on my 2000 GMC 1 ton, they lasted for a long while b4 I noticed stress cracking around the cross drilled holes (I hauled a lot too) that brand is usually a good choice for a daily driver 👍🏾😎
Hey Eric, love the channel. I ran the Z23 PowerStop package on my 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T. I was experiencing the warping issues before swapping…never had the problem again. The ceramic pads were pretty good. Made in the USA ouside of Chicago. 10/10, will buy again.
Wow, I couldn't believe that test drive…so much traffic, phew! Hard to find open roads like that in the Houston, TX area.
If it works, I would try their break-in procedure with cheap brakes.
Hi farmer
i run them on my 06 f150 with the mighty 5.4 3v…love them…i have noticed i have to clean the slots out every so often as dust builds up in them..dont know if that is normal for slotted rotors as this was my first time using them..but..they do stop quick and straight..i love them
I like the coveralls look but I still think you need to add the SMA kilt to your wardrobe, just like on the rotors, more airflow results in better cooling. Only downside is Mrs. O may get upset with the crowd of Avoca ladies hanging around outside the bay when you're working under a vehicle 😉
I see you didn’t opt for the topless look with the new overalls, great video as always.
It seems really strange to see Eric working on a set of "Normal rust free parts that are not being held together by rust.) Hope this works for Mrs. O.
The latest procedure is stop 30 time from 30 to 5 mph. I'm satisfied with the Evolution brakes on 3 of my cars. Im in the Rust Belt here in Pittsburgh and it's hell on everything. Lol.
I like the new coveralls….looks sharp!
Check out the bibs! A whole new meaning to freedom of movement.
That wheel moved quite a bit when you torqued the nuts. You sure that isn't part of the issue?
I put them on the front of my 2012 Forester. Working great, no problems so far.
Nice I use power stop rotors on my f150. I pull trailers , boat, and put gravel, bricks in bed and they work great. Ford rotors were always warping. I now put power stop on all my vehicles. Wife's highlander shakes when she puts on brakes, and I just put on pads 1 week ago. So next go round I'll put power stop on the highlander…excellent channel
I put Akebono pads on last year and slotted anodized rotors all around. I freaked out after installing the fronts , then reading that the slots in the rotors are directional! Luckily i had put them on correctly. Break-in took about an hour, tons of stop & go heating them up. Hopefully anodized might help in WNY. Couldn't be happier with the whole setup. In my research Akebono pads are highly rated by a ton of people, but not available locally, had to search a bit.
I work for a public transit agency and I can tell you from experience you made the right choice. My local parts houses won’t stock power stop so I order them online. My biggest brake offender is the ford transit 350. They will chew through rear brakes in 6k and ruin the rotors as well with the OEM as well as all the major brands. I ended up switching the entire fleet to the Z26 heavy truck/ambulance brakes and am now seeing 30k on a set of pads and the rotors are still true. A bonus is all the brake dust went away. I have to admit I take great delight in your fight with rust and corrosion as it makes my frustration on current projects seem petty. May you and your family have a great Independence Day
I wonder if she drives with one foot on the gas and one on the brake overheating the rotors. I tried a version of those rotors and they seemed to wear alot faster, I have had good luck with Wagner rotors and here's hoping they don't change there quality.
What is that place we saw while you were driving with all the cabooses? Cool!
I have Powerstop Z36 on my truck for over 2 years now and I love them. They are so far the only brakes I've had on my truck that haven't rusted so bad they need to be replaced and/or warped from braking while towing my camper. Can't wait to see what you think about them!
👍for the 'overalls'..no more back pain
I was going to upgrade my wifes Camaro up from with some of these. We don't really have a issue with warping, but was quoted 1500 for a brake job when I went in for a tire rotation the other day. So I figured for 300 I would just toss new pads in the rear and the slotted stuff up front. I have though about these for my truck as well. As the wiggle for hard breaking. I've heard of a few moving the slotted and drilled for the warping reason on the fronts. Please do up a follow up the results… .be interested to see if they make a difference for my wifes and my truck. My truck mostly since it has a warping issues.
observations the fans of the rotors will always go forward
With even OE now often chinesium, reviews are key. Not much out there on these. Please keep us updated on their performance.
Is Mrs O a late braker?
Approaches known corner, tells kids to hang on, spikes and trail brakes into the corner and powers out of said corner aiming for the next!
The PowerStop pads and rotors are the only thing I put on cars and trucks anymore. Have had great luck with them. The only problem I ever had is a couple of the calipers didn't have hardly any grease on the pins. I just double check everything now. These are fantastic on trucks that do heavy towing and hauling. They just hold up better then any other brand I've used.
Do you like the overalls Eric, does Mrs. O have a matching pair?
I had the same problem. As it turns out I did it to myself. I would wash my truck every Friday after work (to impress the women I would ultimately never meet) I came down the " big hill" and pulled into the automatic wash. The rotors were well and truly hot when I went into the wash. Every couple of months the truck would shake and the rotors were warped.
I have used the powerstop brakes on a 2010 Odyssey, 2006 accord, and our 2018 Odyssey.
Overall, positive experience. However, I did not properly break in the geomet coated (non slotted and drilled) on the 18 oddy, and had significant brake judder within 3-4k miles. Thought I warped the rotors, and ordered a new set of rotors. After reading about the break in and friction material judder, I chose to resurface the rotors to try them again. There is a DIY shop near me, so I learned how to turn rotors and not throw out $100. Spent $30 to use the tool. I reinstalled the first set, ran the recommended break in procedure (slightly different than the one you did, but per their instructions), and all is well so far after 5k miles. We shall see how they do. Generally, we put 20k + miles/year on our family hauler.
Side note: we have 92.5k miles on 18 Odyssey, and the suspension is crap. Replaced rear shocks with Monroe, but still feels crappy. Rear seems to sag compared to other vans. No aftermarket parts available. OEM springs on backorder. Any suggestions?
Just spotted the overalls at the end! Ms. O get some too? I put some or those fancy rotor/pads on my 2500. Little better stopping. Mine were about half of what yours cost. Bout a year in still good. Don't remember brand just that they were cheaper than delco replacements. Thanks.
Greetings Eric O, have used Power Stop brake kits on 3 different cars in the past. The first time I completed the brake job and pulled the car out of the garagr and drove around the block and OMG, It was horriable noises coming from the brakes, pulled back in garage and looked for what I hade done wrong! To my suprise all looked good so back out and preceded to do brake in of pads. MUCH TO MY SURPRISE ALL NOISES AND SHUDDERS DISAPPEARED. Great product, highly recommend and love your channel. keep up the great work.
I haven't had much luck with stoptech. I went hawk instead
should of asked, could of given you a 5% discount code
Your overalls are too clean, the only missing bit is the beer belly. Great video as usual.👍🤓😎
Very informative video! Thanks Eric!
I put a similar kit on my 2001 Lincoln Town Car, and it definitely made a difference, the one thing I did notice, the more I use the car the better the brakes work. I changed mine 2 years ago. Personally I think they are worth the price. I also changed the brake fluid so maybe had an effect as well.
If you get on the brakes hard, the anti lock system kicks in very quickly. I only changed the front brakes, I can get the Same brakes for the rear. I don't need them yet.
Looking good in the farmer's jeans. Just add a pipe & hold onto the straps to complete the look! The break-in procedure is pretty standard, but it makes you wonder how long that transferred brake pad material will stay on the rotor?
I know I used those on my now scrapped 2011 Caravan the first time I changed the brakes on it. Normally using Napa parts I got 2 years out of a set of pads and rotors. Out of the upgraded set I got 4 years out of them and this was with my wife that has a lead foot and stands on the brakes at the other end.
Hi Eric, I had the same problem with my dts cadi, when i bought it with about 36k miles on it had brake pulse, turned the rotors and it was fine till next brake job. about six months on the new brakes the brake pulse returned. I replace rotors same thing six months brake pulse returned, I turned the rotors and it has been fine now for about a year. don't scrap your rotors if the problem returns have your old rotors turned and give them a try
Heck yea man! I put all new PowerStop on my 97 Chrysler t&c (caravan) and it solved all my brake problems. Did not solve any of its electrical issues tho 😂
Farmer Eric!
Rockin the coveralls, yeah!
Rocking the Overalls. Nice. I clicked on the video and thought: "Wait – does youtube recommend videos from 5 years ago again?" becasue you look younger in them.
Cheers!
HI Eric, I put a complete set of the power stops on my 1998 jeep grand Cherokee about 2 years ago. they are great no complaints. when it's time for a brake job on my pickup truck i will put a set of power stop on it.
Must be a Kia thing. I can’t keep rotors on my wife’s Rio either.
I had the same issues with a lady who had a checy hhr installed these no more issues
I knew this guy who did brake jobs that turned out with problems, so he blamed his wife's driving .
Someone is braking late and not anticipating and coasting.
love the road test videos
Thanks for the demonstration of the break-in of the brakes. I just replaced all of my brakes and fluid. I instinctively drove a similar break-in, but I didn’t quite drive as hard. I rode the brakes a little to heat them up an feel for any pulling. I did some aggressive braking. I was also concerned with not coming to a complete stop. However, I didn’t go much faster than 30 as I was driving near residential and away from any highways.
It is good to hear some rationale as to breaking them in as apposed to my feeling of how I should treat newly installed brakes. I wish I had seen this video when you posted it, as that was one week before I installed the brakes as apposed to one week after. (I mixed up the date of this video, I guess I practically did see it when you posted it.) I think I can still run the break-in procedure as I have only driven about 4 miles and really didn’t heat up the brakes that much. I am also still sensitive to really coming to a full stop with the new brakes. So far they feel great.
The brakes I installed were ‘better’ or ‘best’ from AutoZone for my son’s Ranger. However I picked up the identical brand and model Evolution Z23 for my F150. I will definitely follow the break-in on the F150, but won’t be installing for a while. I have been sitting on the set for almost 2 years as the F150 has low mileage and doesn’t get driven that much. I got them at a great discount.
I love your bib and brace overalls as their called in Australia, you look like a true hillbilly , LOL.
I put a 4" lift on my zr2 tracker with bigger tires obviously, I was trashing rotors every 6 months. I got a set of these myself about a year ago, so far so good.
High performance for te van nice
Loving the overalls
What no stop squak
I have the same set up on my civic and thunderbird. Best decision ever.
Have seen great success on PPV vehicles with them rotors/ brake kits. They should do you good on a daily driver Mr.O
too funny I just warranty my power stops. I only had the coated power stops but after a year they are warped. I have a 1998 GMC suburban. I do half to say rock auto dos stand behind their warranties don't even half to send back the old. just keep them for two weeks in case power stop wants them hopefully the drilled ones are better than the rust coated ones
My issue w Rock Auto is there return policy for warranties. You eat the shipping. As a result I'm very choosy about the parts I buy from there for use on customer's cars.
I've used em in the past and they work great, towards the end of life I've seen cracking. I picked up some dynamic friction high carbon drilled and slotted and so far they're wonderful. I have some s groove ones on my daily driver that have treated me very well the past couple years as well. I always opt for the coated variants being in the midwest, it helps.
Used them on a 3rd gen Camaro and loved them.
On an 09 xterra with the big 4.0. Rotors from advance would potato chip after 10k miles. Last change I gave the stock replacement powerstop kit a try. They have been smooth and consistent for about 12k now.
I must be slow today – sticker says drivers side and you're putting it on the left. Was about to say you're doing it wrong, then remembered Americans drive on the wrong side of the road…
I've put power stops kits on 4 cars with no complaints, but Mrs O is not driving. 😉 I personally like Raybestos performance rotors. I use these on my Subie race car. And if they can stand up to that then they got to be good. Bed in procedure is critical on all brake jobs. Love the new overalls. Cheers
A Mrs. O vehicle repair and no Mrs. O? You got overalls on, is MRS.O liking hers?
Put power stop on Honda Civic and my Altima and performance is great and I followed the breakin procedure. 20k on Altima and no problem yet.
I put the same on my 2003 Legacy Wagon, 3 years ago. Don't drive it much, but they've never given me an issue, other than they look like pooh now….
I see you got your overalls you’ve been talking about with Mrs. O
Usually those rotors you get like that are coated even though they look silver. Looks like a silver paint like coating. Bought the same brand from rock auto for a Subaru.
I bought a brand new Dakota in 2000. Since then, nothing but problems with the front rotors. That is, up until August of 2019 when I put a set of RA Power Stop rotors/pads/calipers on the truck. 3 years later, I'm still very pleased with their stopping, low dust, but most of all… no wobble anymore. HOOrah!
Porsche developed the drilled and slotted technology for their Le Mans dominating 917s to rapidly decelerate from 250 mph down to 10 mph for 24 hours straight. Should be sufficient for Mrs. O's performance requirements. Time will tell.
I have used Power Stop many times. Its worth the cash!
Got the same kit for a 08 ford ranger that i swapped a blown 350 in.. couldnt stop before with the rear drums. So i screwed up and didn’t replace the shoes on the back or adjust em and got that kit.. the first night i had em on i was going around a corner about 80 and tapped the brakes and son of a turd squatted and lifted the ass end up and when your going around a turn at 80, thats not good.. back wheel hit the curb hard enough to snap the whole tire and everything clean off so the axle dug into the dirt and sent me in a barrel roll right into a tree. And upside down i sat, buckled in, both feet stuck wedged under the pedals. Music still playing, all windows completely covered by tree branches, motor still running. Started smelling fuel so tried reaching for the keys to shut her down because the stupid roll over switch didnt do shit.. and boom smell fire. Luckily there was a person who saw me and pulled the branches off the door and i had to pull my feet out of my shoes cuz they were not coming out.. shoulda let the truck burn but i put it out with a branch because the cop found a roach in the ash tray and gave me a dui.. aint life just grand.?!? Lol..
I am sure you will agree Mr O, all rotors need bedding in gently don't get them hot for the first week, worth a try, especially as you admitted they warp early on in there use, nice vid
I use cross drilled and slotted on my Dodge minivans solved the pulsation issues
First time I have herd of brake brake-in, make sense. Next step is that all future brake jobs will require Dyno time to brake-in the brakes.
Nice overalls! When I wear mine it drives my wife nuts. lol
So turning or resurfacing the rotors on the car or off the car wasn't a option? Brembo 4 or 6 piston calipers could be a good option.
I don't know nothing about that fancy brake kit you got, please let us know how they work out for you and the lovely Mrs O.
I have used these on all my cars (olds intrigue; toyota camry; ram 1500 5.7). I love the brake pads, they work really well. I did find that the rotors weren't the best as they don't seem to have good quality control. The cross drilled and slotted rotors had no balancing marks for my Ram 1500. I had to take the front ones off and balance them by building a crude balancer similar to a lawnmower blade balancer and using an angle grinder to balance. It mostly worked and when I replaced the rotors again I got Brembo ones because they actually stated in the description they were balanced. They came with balance marks on them. I used the powerstop pads again
I installed Power Stop Euro-Stop coated rotors and semi-metallic pads on my 2015 Fiat 500 Abarth. It's claimed to be the same as OEM and that's pretty much what I'm getting out of them minus the grossly inflated dealer price. The added benefit of the coated rotors is that they should rust out a lot slower along the edges. Also, you don't need to clean them since they don't have any preserving oil on them. The coating will wear out on the rotor's surface confirming the fit of the pads on the rotors.
I didn't go with the Z23 option because my car really doesn't need it. The 500 is so light that it already stops on a dime!
I did the break-in procedure as instructed on a disused runway.
I was replacing or turning rotors frequently on my car, and I believe the issue was the caliper pistons staying against the pads with too much force. This in spite of the fact that they were not completely stuck – I could push them back with a clamp if replacing pads. Anyhoo, I replaced the calipers and have so far not had any more issues. I don't know how you'd quantify the amount of force required to retract the pistons. The dust seals on the pistons did appear to be compromised. Love the overalls!
I have the Power Stop z23 calipres, rotors, and pads on my 2010 Chevy Avalanche. Their break-in is very important to do, as they say, otherwise, it is easy to glaze the pads and rotors. I like them but they do not last any longer and are much more expensive versus OEM or even white box.
Use these brake kits all the time…in fact my Sienna is due for new brakes and going to order some
Nice overalls sir! Lookin good!
Grand Caravans are infamous for warping rotors too
Turn the old ones?🤣🤣
Family mechanic here. I’ve used them for the last several brake jobs I’ve done. I like them much more than the local parts store brands and will keep using them until a reason comes along that I don’t like them. No complaints at all so far. 🙂
I love my Powerstops. Exactly the same for my 03 lesabre. Great hardware too. Follow break in procedure to the letter.
I've used these rotors with good luck on a mazdaspeed6 and a mazda5.
The rotors are zinc e-coated
My only experience with drilled/slotted rotors in the rust-belt is that the holes/slots provide more places for rust to encroach into the swept-surface of the rotors.
My wife had a Kia and it warped rotors like every 6 months for the 7 years she owned it. Bought a Durango and no warped rotors after 2 years.
I live in a busy city with tons of stop sings and stop lights and traffic. I’ve tried doing these break in procedures, but I always get red lights after the first two aggressive braking. What do you suggest. I can’t drive to a country road and put the brakes on out there and then test.
An issue that was discussed a few months back was the number of cargo ships backing up at sea waiting to get into the US to be unloaded. It was stated that China includes enough rust prevention in product packing to take care of a fairly normal amount of time on the sea which as we know is a very corrosive place to be due to exposure to the sea air. One of the things that was happening is that a lot of products in the cargo containers were rusting due to the long wait times for unloading.
I have found that the most common cause of brake vibration doesn’t come from run- out but rather brake rotor thickness variation, anything above .08” is enough to feel, granted the slide pins move freely