This the follow up to this video here https://youtu.be/IfuSRA1vTHY Just wanted to let you guys know it's all fixed and the customer is happy ๐
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Just want to give you folks a quick follow-up This is on the Subaru the next day. Uh, the wheel speed sensor showed up here from Napa and I took it out and check this out. I See this Little Neck So this is where let me get it done. Wilder Here this is where it goes up into the body.
This comes down, clicks into the body, this clicks into the strut and then this wire from here to the speed sensor just out in outer space. I See this little Nick and I Spread that sucker open and it's it's clean. Plum Broke as they say down south. So pretty interesting that that sucker worked as good as it did in this for as long as it did and I'm a little embarrassed I didn't notice that Nick I'll have to look back through the footage but I Remember, just kind of like going over this and tweaking the wires and checking the connector into the hood.
and you know, not seeing anything. but yeah, that's our source, that's your open circuit there fella. So needless to say, new sensor. Fix this ladies problem.
Sometimes being imperfect allows you to be more perfect the next time.
It's always comforting to have that eureka moment when chasing an intermittent problem. At first I thought the wire you were showing us was the new one coming out of the box that that showed Made in China. Cheers
Eric, I believe itโs us old dogs who donโt remember to put out readers on. These things are easy to overlook the older we get. Big fan of the channel, love your tips and no how
I thought that was the new unit. My question would have been how did it get passed quality ๐
I love u don't hide anything and You are real deal ! Respect !
Once again, Beautiful.
You sir are the only mechanic in the world I would let touch my car, and I have major trust issues when it comes to mechanics. lol
You know we are allowed every once a miss
Nice
I blame Andy…..
Good post. You can always not notice something that is obvious once you find it.
Hard to see without full removal in not great lighting for sure. Maybe you can hire an out of work movie crew to light your shop while SAG is out on strike? ๐ Isn't it always the simple weird stuff that gets everyone? Cheers for sharing.
I thought you were gonna tell us this is how it came from NAPA ๐ฎ.
Surprised it worked at all to be fair.
I went back and watched the last video again. If you watch closely it is nicked but not split that bad. Looked like it had been pinched. That would have been so easy to overlook.
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DOH. Welp, at least you got closure! I hate it when you're fiddling with something trying to diagnose and the problem just vanishes.
For instance, I had an issue with my 2000 Honda CR-V where I suspected there was a backfeed into the signal side of the PGMFI relay that would hold the relay closed and keep the car running even when you turned the key off. I pored over wiring diagrams and determined that the problem could be in a couple lengths of harness behind two or three connectors. As I reached under the intake manifold to mess with one of them while in the fault state, I bumped something, the car shut itself off, and the problem vanished.
That was three years ago and I still am not brave enough to pull the intake and really go at the harness to see what's up.
Itโs driving me crazy every since Iโve started watching your channel and I just have to ask. Where or why did you start using the phrase โold sonโ. Every time I here you say it I believe itโs from an old pbs movie or a book Iโve read. In my 70โs but it sure seems familiar for some reason. Thank you.
I chased an intermittent left front ABS sensor problem on my wife's Audi over about a year. Sometimes I could see spikes in the graph for that channel but otherwise it read fine. It had a new sensor, no change, new wheel bearing, no change. Every time I worked on it, it would end up looking fixed for a week or so.
I ended up swapping the front left & right channels at the ABS controller. The fault moved on the scope so I knew the controller was ok, and it must be something related to that wheel. Eventually I found an intermittent open circuit in the car side of the ABS sensor connector. One of the wires had broken from its crimp and was only being held in (surprisingly well) by the weather pack. One of those where I felt a little annoyed that I didn't find such a "basic" thing earlier, but also pleased that I felt absolutely certain I found the fault.
Nope. Does not need a new sensor. Just fix the wire and done.
Nice follow up. Probably not visible until the wheel is cranked hard one way or the other.
Always good to finial get the aah moment.
Up here in NE Wisconsin, 90% of the time, I just replace the speed sensors if possible. Corrosion is terrible around here and the sensors are cheap.
I like it Eric O. will say "look here! I missed that" and show us. Humbleness is a virtue. I noticed when I wear glasses I see stuff better, gettin' older I reckon…thanks for the follow up Mr O.
ERIC, U R GETTING OLD LIKE ME ~~ U NEED BIOFOCUL GLASSES???????
Unbelievable!
I wish I could work for you. I've done a lot of work on my own cars with my DeWalt carry toolbox with it's ratchets and sockets and a few other tools for a while and have tried to get a job at multiple mechanic shops in southern Oregon but none will give me a chance. There's not even certification required to be a mechanic here. One day ima try to get my own shop. After my 3 year infantry contract for the National Guard ima get another contract to be a wheeled vehicle mechanic; then after that's over hopefully I'll be able to make my dreams happen owning my own mechanic shop
Had a jeep liberty with an abs issue where the right rear was irratic. When i looked at it the owner replaced the sensor which is great new one and it worked for a bit because he moved it. Broke the internal clip bits in the connector because desert 120 hot and just snapped the retaining clip. So i looked at it and i was like ok…. Diagram says the modual goes all the way to the speed sensor and back and giving it 12v to the sensor and ground to the module. I saw that and checked for breaks in the wire it wasn't covered in thick insulation like that normal wire in wire loom protector which turns to dust you love em too lol. When i looked had ground but no power so interesting took apart the loom looked real hard and found a clean slice like that too in the 12v wire. Being cautious i thought what are the odds it was only that one….. It wasnt there was another break because i checked power at the break and still, nothing. Looked further up and sure enough, there was another break Chrysler who knew. So i checked there for my power and yes i had 12 volts took the bad bit out fixed it and boom worked. Now after a bit it came back again for the same problem but my repair held which is interesting. I isolated the segment that is to the wheels and i used a jumper wire and i still didn't continuity there but for the other side i did. My thoughts were "thats odd.. theres continuity on one side but not the other tested the individual wires and they did now." I connected it back tried again and it was working. So my thought was yes the connector is indeed bad replaced it and it fixed it i checked with my scanner now and i have wheel speed now.
Did you clamp it by mistake thinking it was the brake hose ? ๐ canโt you fix it with some heat shrink and tape? ๐
Parts cannon wins again…๐
Spend all your time flirtin with Mrs O…
That nick looked awful clean, maybe it was broken internally, then ripped open during removal
How could you not notice me!! ๐ Long time subscriber and love your channel. Also congrats on over 800k subs that's a testament to your skills and consistent quality content.
impossible to see on the car – obvious when you have it off. Good Job!
Thanks for sharing
I truly appreciate your honesty. You shouldn't be disappointed, you still got the problem solved.
It's good to have known closure to an issue for sure rather than just taking a very good educated guess. Keep up the good work!
imaging that, you're human.
Great follow up video. That one would be easy to miss….
Thank you for the followup. I enjoy the variety of your car repair challenges.
Good stuff Mr O a lot of other channels would not have been as honest as you thats what makes your channel the best. (My opinion.)Cheers.
Great Job, Eric! ๐๐
There's your problem lady!
I wonder if this happened when the owner replaced the axle. It looked like a pretty clean cut. Not something that wore through over time.
I'm just amazed that you were able to remove the OE ones.
Since the wiring is sold as a unit with the sensor, I wouldn't call this one a miss. You made the right call, even in retrospect. Thanks for the followup, nothing builds experience better than understanding the cause.
Put them glasses on there sonโฆ.๐
Legit question (and not trying to be a d1ck) :
If you had noticed the nick beforehand, would that be something you'd splice back together & ship it OR is this one of those sensors which have shielded cables & splicing is out of the question?
(Or, is it just cheaper to throw a new one at the car?..?)
Cheers!
Wow, Eric is not perfect. I'm shocked and disappointed! ๐
I was looking for the nick in the prior vid and never saw it either. I just knew it would be the rust. Thanks for sharing.
Eric, I just knew you are the best. Showing details of damaged parts, not putting blame on others, taking you must have missed the damage at install. All I know is, if you can do it, I can and will watch. Thanks so much for sharing your very specialized skills and talent. Keep filming these repairs, I just know young mechanics are watching and learning.
The speed sensor generates an AC signal as each magnet passes by. AC signals can be capacitively coupled – so the two ends of the cut wire being butted up to each other acts like a capacitor and enough signal passes that things were mostly OK. Only then the cut opens up eg on full bump or steer, would it drop out.
Olโ comeback Joe! ๐ ๐ ๐๐
swaptronics for the win.
Well superman has x-ray vision. You sir have only reader glasses. Still you manage superman repair. Nice work. Let's say this one never came back. It was waiting for parts to arrive from never any parts available.
Thanks for the follow-up… always good to find the real problem. Home-gamer opportunity to repair the break!
ah hah! I could smell it a mile away, because I've been bitten by similar breakage in them, sometimes far less visible than that. like tiny knife/glass/plastic slice that let salt water in, like a paper cut! very annoying and hard to find. I've went as far as on jack stands, wheels off, with lugs holding rotors, idling in gear and flexing the wires all around, even that has failed me before. ๐คฌ
You said it was a air gap issue without even using your feeler gauges ๐
You finally got the smoking gun, old son! thanks for updating us!
You're only human Mr.O sometimes we get so caught up in the complex we miss the obvious answer
Woo hoo! Time for a tall one!
Thanks for the update.
Good show. The OEM says it takes very little amperage to operate sensors, so if it made mere contact it would work; no arcing due to heat of resistance, I suppose.
We were all there with youโฆ & none of us noticed it either!
Well that definitely explains the intermittent problem!
At the end of the day the problem was solved! Can't catch everything.
Well there's your problem lady!
Sure is hard to find them sometimes
Hi Eric … A great follow up on the speed sensor. The video images tell the story! Stay safe & healthy!
Imagine that.
You need to wear your glasses or you'll go blind! Thanks for the update
If NAPA would only sponsor you, it would be the only car parts store I'd go to
Wow
Sometimes those problems sneak up on you.
Always good to look at the old parts ๐
Donโt beat yourself up too bad Mr. O. Your nose for sniffing out broken wires remains unmatched
As we all know, you can't fix something that isn't broken. Intermittent issues are always hit or miss. The hard part is getting the customer to understand that!
Cue the Russian no parts required "sodder"(Solder in English) repair! ๐คญ
I think the lawnmower man distracted you and threw you off your game, other wise the break in the sensor wire would have been noticed by you upon disassembly.
It happens. The knick was likely on the inside of a bend and just as likely where the wire goes around to the inside of the strut.
Sometimes figuring out how they DO work is harder than figuring out how they don't work. ๐ค
Dang I thought you were the broken wire Bird dog.
Glasses. You need glasses
Nice to know that Nick was the problem. Good job fella.
I did not realize that is how we say it down in the south. But you are probably right.
Wow, pretty amazing that ever worked!?! Thanks for sharing!
It was playing hide and seek on you. Sometimes it is hard to see damage like that when it is on the vehicle.
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probably all the weed thatโs growing in NY state or your eyesight is starting to go๐
WHAT!??! You made a mistake? No way! I blame the rats!! Or maybe the neighbor's mower threw a rock over and it spliced the wire!
been there done that humble pie
5277 OUT!!
I saw that nick, and here we go, I ascertained that you had noticed it and gave it a pass, and it is on you recording!
Have a "common" Chevrolet impala problem with ABS in front. Similar breaks in wires. Even in replaced harnesses. Cheap fragile wiring. Difficult to find without close Mr. O searching. Thanks Eric!!
One of my cars had a dead O2 sensor, but the engine light kept going on/off. Moved the wire around and got it to stay on. It was a 2-wire so tried probing for a break. Narrowed the break down, cut both wires, spliced both wires back together, and that O2 is still in the car…5 years later.
Sharp eye there Eric . A skill a good mechanic must have .
As a tech and shop four bay shop owner (retired) I know well how cars will keep you humble. Looking back on how I could have missed something so obvious in the visual inspection. Keep doing what you're doing Eric. You're top notch. If I had 100 of you I would have ruled the world ๐
Fair enough that got missed until replacement…it got onto the radar soon enough.
Whats interesting though, wouldn't you think those sensors would be better protected vs. a simple vinyl sheath casing?