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Hello everybody! Good day to you! Welcome back! Glad you guys are here. That is a 2016 Ram 1500 I Think it's four wheel drive and it's got a clunky shaft opening. Z Hood At least we think that the problem lies in the shaft. Uh, every now and then according to the customer.
Uh, when the vehicle comes up to a complete stop, it makes a loud, clanky, uh banging noise that seems to be coming from the drivetrain. Um, there are several other Ram owners who have noticed a similar situation and they think that the splines on the drive shaft starts using. They think that the splines on the drive shaft uh, become dried up or the grease dries up in it and the shaft will get stuck and it will not extend and retract like it's supposed to. So what we're going to do is we're going to get this thing up in the air, pull the shaft out, take it apart, and see if in fact those splines are dried up or not.
Let's go ahead and swing this thing in with all of its 87 825 miles that are on the odometer, and we'll get started. We've got lots to do today, so we're making haste. So I've got an avalanche ready to avalanche on the big rack over there. so we're just going to put this on the little big rack over here.
Okay, so real quick. we need to get this thing into neutral. So so I need to climb back in the cabin. Now we can't use the little selector thing because once you power it down, it just goes straight back.
uh, into park. So what we need to do is is pop this little tab or this, uh, this little cover off right here. Come here. get behind it with a trim tool or a pry driver or something like that without tearing up the dash.
I wasn't prying on the dash I was pulling away from it. Anyway, you just give this little uh, little tether a tug right here. Come here. tether become.
Maybe that's not it. You know what? I'm doing it wrong. Look, there's another little lock like right there. Look at that thing.
Push that over. I Think we push that and then pull I Think that's how it goes. Ah, come on. Lock there we go.
Now we're neutral. Click that back out. so the trans is in neutral even though the selector says it's in park. Okie Dokes rack is set.
Let's go ahead and get this thing up in the air. flash subscribe buttons here. it's only black here. that's it's red on YouTube But it's just this thing that I do I I Heard I have uh, confused people with that before.
Sorry, yeah, all the Subscribe buttons are actually red. but I actually have a I have a black button and the other lift has a green button. So I called them black and green. My mistake.
Anyway, we're uh, we're going on up here. Get all the way to the top, Click there we go and down on the locks for safety two. Okay so down below we see we've got our got a what is it a two piece? It's actually a three piece because this is two pieces but this doesn't count. There's a slip joint in here and I understand that that is probably our our issue. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna pop this thing off from the yolk back here on the differential and we're gonna break into these little clamps right here. We're going to separate this side from this side and see if we cannot lubricate those splines in there. All right. So everybody really wants me to start doing this.
So I will What we're going to do is just Index this with some uh, a visual indicator. that way it goes back in the same spot people like that. So I used my my pink nail polish. All right.
So we're gonna go in with some wobbly Driveline sockets and that's going to allow me to get to these bolts with relative ease here because you really can't get a straight shot on them. But I with a wobbly you can spin this over. Next, this has been painted. Someone's been here before.
Tell that it's three number four right there gonna come loose. Uh, negative? Got it all right? Let's move up to the front here and we can uh on both the drive shaft from the back of the trans. We'll do the same same procedure here. four bolts come out.
Drop that one. there's one up top here. Can't turn the shaft much because it's kind of dangling down at the carrier bearing. Okay, that's three.
Where's my little mallet? Foreign bar you? because I will come on right? Mark Let's get behind it right? Like So there we go. Now we're loose. juicy. Goosey Grab.
Grab the edge of the shaft right here. Hold that up. Hold this. It's gonna get heavy.
Okay, hold it better than that. Hold it. Put your arm here. it's gonna get heavy.
I Got it. Got it. Push-ups start taking away now and over there to the bench. Watch your Noggin watch.
you're not gonna I got it? I Got it down. Please thank you. You're welcome. See you later.
All right Bye! So here's what we're looking for. We need to go ahead and get these clamps opened up and we'll separate these two shafts and check out the splines inside. We'll spin that around till we get to our clamp ends and we'll pop those guys out. Okay, let's go ahead and pop these uh, little clamps out of here.
Kind of easy-ish I Don't think these are the factory ones I think these have been replaced already? Yeah, lucky here. Look, you can see there's witness marks right here from an older clamp. See that one. and then this clamp was right here.
so these have been placed before. Odd. All right, let's see what I can do about getting this split apart here. I've never done this before.
Oh, here we go Here it comes. Yeah, okay, foreign again. we're not going to allow this. This is very thin grease look at that.
We're not going to allow this to come all the way out so it doesn't Spin and rotate out of its index position. So I think what I'll do is just load this up full of some lubricant and uh, we should be good. Oh, that's a very long extendo shaft. Look at that. Yeah, that's actually quite a bit of extension on this drive shaft. I Didn't expect this much. Um, let's see what I've got for some lube here. My customer actually brought this.
It's a Motorcraft lubricant PTFE lubricant and on the back here it says we eliminate grunt type noises I Don't know what a grunt noise is like. a grunt noise is in the drive shaft slip yoke. so it's four drive shaft shafts slip. Yokes Words eliminates interior and exterior squeaks.
Okay, so this is good for all kinds of stuff. So we're gonna Lube this shaft with this. Lube So what I'm going to do is we'll just take a towel, get as much of this old lubricant off of here as we can. don't need to contaminate lubricants I'm not sure how critical that is in this particular application, but we're gonna do our due diligence.
Come on, Come out. shaft about as far as it's gonna go. Wiper down. yeah, that's pretty thick.
There we go. Get the bottom. Get all the little lands and flats. Make sure there's no dirt in here, which there is, actually.
so we're gonna get that out there. we go. Okay. Chop the end of that little guy off so we can squeeze it out.
Look at that, it's blue so you know it's good. All right. I Wonder if this is a job like or an operation that the Forums discovered I hadn't seen a bulletin on it? Nothing like that and we'll go ahead and rotate that around a little bit more. Squeeze it on in there.
Nice leg s foreign. Do that a few times. make sure it all gets in, especially at the bottom. Messy? Yeah.
I'm a slob too liberal with the lubricant clearly as we can see, I'm not very skilled at applying lubricant, so we need to smear this in a little bit better because this is gross I Screwed this all up kind of bad. Actually, like I said, it's my first day I've never done this job before. Spin it around, smear it in a little bit. I'm just gonna use the whole tube.
We're gonna go wild on the lube and you can't have too much. You can always dry it up later, right? Nice liberal coaching of lubricant. Yeah. Kick It In Lauren Can you hold the other side of this shaft so I can shove it in all the way? Please? Sure, it's it's going that way when I try to push it? So just hold it and push.
There we go. Teamwork. Yeah, there's air in there. Maybe he needs two hands on it.
Push there we go. All right. We're good. We're good.
Got it? Okay, that's good. All right. Thank you. Get rid of all the leftover.
Got some spillage, some overflow. We don't need that. All right. So all the Overflow spillage has been, uh, been kind of mopped up.
Put this back together and we'll clamp it all on. Yeah, there we go. Maximum shaft lubrication there. Okay, a little bit more wiping action I can clean this up some more later.
That's yeah, that's not working. New towel, new, blue, smearing it everywhere. This is not what I wanted to do there. Okay, let's get the clamp together. So what we do is we wrap this around, hook these little hooks in to the notches on the clamp, and then we'll squeeze this part right here and it'll cinch the clamp down, creating a good grip on, uh, on this little dust boot thing. It's about as far as I think I can get it by hand, maybe a little more. No. I'll try.
Oh, that's it. Map Train: Okay, so that's in position. let's go ahead and cinch down on this. that's going to tighten up the clamp and secure it permanently.
clamp cake good as new, so that's one. Let's back up some. Number two, you know. I Probably could have performed this operation with this thing still on the vehicle, but that may have been awkward and cumbersome and counterproductive.
I mean I guess it could have been done, but I preferred my way so we'll slide those guys in just like the other side. I have extra clamps in case I Fubar This cinch that down looks good. Oh I broke it. good thing I have extra clamps Attempt number two.
Let's try this again. Come on now we don't have all day. it's looking good. See that much more better.
Come on. Epic failure. Well I had an extra plants. yeah, we're down to the left.
Maybe I shouldn't make it so so tight. these are not. uh Dodge clamps. these are Amazon clamps.
Perhaps the Metallurgy is not the best. There we go. All right, that's more better that down. Good to go has been lubricated.
now. you can see we've got all this extra lube on here. that's no bueno on on lubricate the exterior. We don't really need to move on the outside.
that one. Good to go. Let's get this thing pre-installed We'll hit the road and see if it stops making that clunky noise foreign side kind of bolted in. actually changed my mind right away.
Community: I'll get this carrier bearing, just bolt it on first. That way this thing wait. Heavy. Uh-huh it won't fall under your side.
Okay, Yep. I got it all right. Oh, you're good. You can.
You can relax and let that kind of dangle that's not gonna fall. No, it's not. I put bolts in. Yeah, okay, you're good.
Okay, thank you. You're welcome. Hi. All right now What I need to do? Okay, so here's the deal.
I didn't Index this uh this front one because I really couldn't because there's really nothing to index off of. So we're gonna go back to the rear and I'll just use my marks on the rear to uh, index the rear and that in turn will index the front. So my Mark is over here. Now you remember we, uh, we turned this thing to get to, uh, all the bolts.
So oh, we're gonna press that shaft back in some still heavy even though it's bolted in? Come on you. line up. Um, let me try to collapse. there's a little there we go.
Get up in there. that was easy, right? Okay, holes are lined up, marks are marked. Let's get some Loctite on these. uh Fasteners and run them down. So uh, let's not forget that the carrier bearing bolts are still spend it a little bit or still suspended. There's the carrier is still suspended and the bolts are not tight. That's what I was trying to get out. Words: a little out of breath from handling the shaft thing right here.
This thing's heavy. click now since the uh, the front is not yet secured I can't really rotate this so we're gonna go ahead and get this front in position and we'll get that thing bolted on next here. What we can do, we'll push this back, slide you into your home, there kinda in there. These guys lined up.
they appear to be visually in line. This is good. Okay, four bolts and some Loctite coming in foreign. Loctite on number two, stick that in there.
number three Loctite Good. Oh no, you don't bolt. Get back in there. That's three.
Here's number four coming in. Spin that around so we can reach, shove it in. three more bolts, back out back. Okay, so we've got the one already in.
Let's spin this around so we can reach it more. Loctite You know I don't know if these uh came Factory with thread lock in them or not or if this is been added since. uh, last time someone had the shaft out foreign. That's okay.
it is of no matter because now there is Loctite mix all right so that's that on those for the front. four are good. Let's get the carrier bolted back on. Very easy to forget the carrier.
I've done it. It's not good. Clicks All right, that is that. Uh, let's wipe off the rest of the grease and we'll go out and hit the road.
We want to make it stay shiny, not unshiny it. I wonder if I have any paint? I'm gonna check my my paint stash to see if we have any leftover paint. There we go. Okay, well I see it.
Black spray paint Food: Not a huge deal, but I can tell that this has been painted before so we want to make it nice again. No reason to. uh, trip at the finish line. Spin that around that way we can get rid of all of our nasty looking witness marks and whatnot.
pry bar marks, socket marks and impact gun marks. All that good stuff. Do the same thing up here. we'll get the bolts, see if it's a little balancer dampener thing.
damper. Foreign. All right. Oh, there's a bolt.
Get that one. Get that one there. now. it's like I was never here.
Okey-doke So far so good. Let's go ahead and get this off the lock. moving up, locks, disengaged, moving down all the way down and we have ground contact. Foreign.
Okay, let's go ahead and clear the rack, look at this thing backed out. We'll hit the road and we'll drive it for and listen for clunky clanky noises. Now like I said I Drove this once upon a time I did hear a noise. Um, it was very faint.
but according to customer and the forums and things of that nature, the uh, most probable cause for the clunky situation was a an unlubricated shaft and even if that's not it, at least we have the shaft now professionally lubricated. There we go. Okay, squeeze on in here real quick. like put this thing back in park. We just give it a tug and then push. I Think or not, how do I undo this? Let's see if pulling back on doesn't work and then pushing on it doesn't work. Maybe that little clip thing down there is what makes it work. Push that guy.
Yep, okay, that was it. Super easy. Um, that way clip that guy back in, contaminate the fingerprints. We're good to go.
All right, let's go ahead and hit the road and get out of here. Test drive this. uh, this Beast right here and see how it how it sounds. restocking Z Engine 5.3 liters, five seven I think these are five sevens.
Yeah, not five threes. sorry. I'm stuck in Chevyland dirt bidder. Okay, so I'm going through my head everything that I did making sure all 10 of my bolts are tight.
We're good. Backing out the auto. Oh, we're not backing up anywhere. There's a pedestrians in the way.
Okay, backing out the auto. That was done. Everybody say hi. Don King I'm gonna hump there.
It goes. Clear, Clear behind, clear, head clear, left, clear right. We're good to go again. I'm running through everything that I touched in my head, especially those two carrier bearing bolts because if those come off while driving, you're going to have a bad time.
It's a it's never a good day. hmm van hello van of wife unit. oh yeah yeah yeah, you all right. We're not gonna go on a huge test drive.
We're gonna spin her around the block a couple times, do a few stops, listen for some clunks and uh and then we're good to go. Oh no one's behind us. So I figure right here under the bridge is a good place to do a first stop. slower down right here not I didn't hear anything which is good.
We don't want to hear anything because the complaint was is when coming up to a stop we heard a clunky noise. good red light. We can stop here. Nice nice.
That's good. That was the type of stop that causes it when the suspension is bound up in the front. the rear is a little lifted because you're kind of aggressive on your stop and then once you come to that stop and the vehicle jostles a little bit, that's when the noise came into play. We just replicated that stop just now and I did not hear the noise.
So we're going to try this a couple more times and flip her around, head back to the shop. So uh, that being said, I think we're all good to go here unless I hear the noise in which case this video is ruined and we'll have to start all over again. So uh, as always I'd like to thank you for watching this video. Hope you enjoyed this video.
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That's right right there. Parking is the auto powering down. See you guys later.
Clunky Shaft was my nickname in the Scouts
you could get a camp installer from toyota
I had a similar noise complaint with my wife’s Nissan Leaf. Service techs found a bulletin where a shim was added and replace the factory grease with a moly formulation.
Lol if you going to have wife unit help supply her with uniforms lolclothes
I assume that the woman in this video is your wife. It is sooo important that in any new business to have a true family support system in place. kudos to you and your assistant.
You need different brake cleaner, this stuff doesn't make any sounds!
The owner of that truck has been taking good care of it.
I drive a Ram 1500 so I try to make sure I watch all of these vids.
Damn your wife is stronger than you!!!!!
Driveshaft repairers balance the shaft after repairs without it being connected to the transmission or yoke. It will not matter what way it goes in if it is properly balanced. In 50 years I have not marked any driveshaft, be they one piece or multiple pieces and have never had any vibration issues. If orientation was that important, you could ask why the input spline is not also marked accordingly, bit pointless only doing one end. Very few use a master spline at the front.
Too much lube?
I've heard is said, the bigger the glob, the better the job!
I was interested in this video because I too have a bump when stopping. Pulled the DS and lubed the splines. Still bumped. Pulled it again and used more lub, but still bumps. Just living with now. Don't know what to do next.
I frequently use that PTFE lubricant to check door seals because it’s bright and leaves clear witness marks
Ray. loved how you lubed that big thick shaft.
As a Chevy guy, using the Ford lube on the Dodge shaft is going to make the Ram rust faster 😂
How to make a Dodge better. Add Ford parts to it. 😂
Ray, when did you decide to go NSFW?
"Nice liberal coating of lubricant. Schtick it in. Lauren, can you hold the other side of this shaft so I can shove it in all the way please? … Need two hands on it."
All kidding aside, keep up the good work!
Looks like rear u joint is completely WHOOPED
If you rewatch vid you can see it move up when he is reinstalling it.
Ray, my man, best mechanic on youtube, please, turn off the hdr, its half and half with your videos, but when its on i have to put my brightness at minimum and its still blinding if you’re outside in the light
Also whats the model on those clamp pliers you have, they look a lot better than the cheapo ones stocked at oreillys and such
Inferior FIAT grease in the FIAT pickup driveline?
Hi Don!!
I think I would be finding a good metal man who could weld metal disk around that part of the drive shaft and put grease fittings on it . That's BS having to pull his shaft every X amount of miles . You'd think paying Mexican workers crap pay to build those trucks would be cheap enough but, Dodge says, We can make it cheaper
can dodge build anything that lasts ? and why the dial-a-shift garbage on these rolling salvage piles….LOL
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It looked like the grease that was in there was just fine. Certainly not dried up. And the fact that somebody was there ahead says to me that they tried the same fix. Probably something else causing the clunk.
Ray, what's up with the red Ram that's in pieces in front of the "new" section?
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The button is black if watching on a computer. And if any reeeee: it is on mine
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I see you let your wife unit do the heavy lifting
Ray How close are you to hiring another mechanic and getting a 3rd lift?
on the 7th ridge from the left, he left a tiny blue spot of lube. it won't hurt nothin but had to point it out.
It's nice to see a husband wife combo work together to get there job done 👍
thank you Ray,and the weather your way looks wonderful,,👌👌
Love your videos. You're the best !!
i thought ram owners were used to dried up shafts with no lube on them
Does this drive shaft have a small vent hole on the outside of the exterior spline section that is stopping up? Such a small hole would allow air to go in and out and make the shaft slide easier. It’s been painted and could be full of paint.
Many moons ago I was a trainee mechanic and was told by the boss of garage to grease the prop shaft on a particular vehicle which I did much to the amusement of everybody else I literally greased the whole thing not knowing about grease nipples . Took ages to clean it off 😂
What, you didn't use Brakleen to degrease the splines??!! No calibrated torque wrenches?
Let's start the debate. My 1977 Ford F150 4×4 had a three piece driveshaft with a carrier bearing. Everything had a grease fitting that got lubed every 3000 miles as part of the oil change. That was then.
Although the customer supplied a lubricant, I would have used nuclear-grade antiseize for the job. Although the copper-bearing antiseize is sufficient, the nuke stuff is inarguably superior.
What are your thoughts?
no one wants a clunky shaft 4 sure
suggestion …. small sticker on the vehicle at the repair site (owner approval, of course)…
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clamp FUBAR'd so good, we do it twice!!!!😀
love the vid, good job, Ray. this was enjoyable with my morning coffee. thanks
My past life of being an aircraft hydraulics tech I learned that when it comes to lube, the wetter the better. Like some other aspects of life.
Had that same issue with 2014 when you stop let off the brake roll about 12 inches and hit the brake hard. Sounds like the shaft spinning then you here a clunk sound. Thing about is it does not happen all the time. One day you will notice it , others you will not.
Be nice if DODGE would put greaseable joints in em.
so many dirty puns came to mind throughout the video 🙂
So many giggity's!
In electronics I also use nail polish to apply a seal.
The clamps don't really cooperate to be clamped.
I can't understand why you undone both clamps. you only need to take off 1. you could have used your support when taking the shaft down and putting it back up but you didn't so you struggled a bit ..Mark the shaft was a good idea for the location …
This video was packed with jokes 😅😂
Maybe you should paint your lift buttons?
HACK YOU CAN INDEX THE FRONT SHAFT!
Ray, this Ram seemed to have a subtle innuendo factor…..
But then, I'm 77. What would I know?
Many hands make light work. Ray is lucky to have you there at times when a hand is needed Lauren { Wife Unit ] .
Liberal application of libation. Bigger the gob the better the job.
wife unit to the rescue 👍
Good wife unit
When you clamped down the second clamp it made me LOL.
also isn't this job supposed to be a recall if multiple drivers are having the same issue /.?
The wife unit did well to keep lifting that prop shaft plenty of endurance.
wow i actually like how Dodge think about how mechanics put these dumb shifters in natural .., some e-shifters are really annoying especially when you do alignment … lol ..
sound like a normal Shop 7 car in line only 1 can't or owner is drop & run off..
FYI Uranus spins on its side.
Nothing better than a well lubed shaft.
Good day, Ray, are you being affected by the Chrysler recall of diesel Ram Pickup trucks to replace an electrical connector.
Interesting repair and God bless WU for stepping in to assist. I love the color of that Ram especially with the black rims! Looks like a real nice truck sounds decent too. …that is coming from a Ford guy but don’t tell my truck I said so.
In a weird twist Rainman Ray cleans and lubricates his shaft on Youtube.
Lubing the shaft, why do I feel like I just watched some adult rated truck content! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ray we heard in aussie today there's a cyclone heading for Florida can you keep us a update mate cheers
Yay, Lauren!!!
This garage assistant ts much better looking than PETEAH !
what would you do with out wife unit ………
My wifes been my shop asisstant for 40 yrs..she knows her stuff! She turned wrenches on her own cars since she was a teenager!
With ALL the talk of lubrication and shafts, MY Wife Unit and I keep waiting for a…. Giggity LOL
Actually, the subscribe button is black on YouTube.
Looks like your expectations exceeded the clamps specifications !
Ray my 17 Ram is doing the same thing. Absolutely drives me crazy🤣. Currently awaiting a complete new drive shaft for it, as Corp is advising the dealers to replace them🤔. 6 months and it’ll be right back to doing it. Thanks for the video on this.
I watch a TON of automotive channels and I have to say, yours is cool because you’re so damn good at diagnostics and textbook repair and recording all of the details. The details in the videos keep me coming back. I just wish you wouldn’t rush everything 😂 I do the same thing tho so I understand
Dodge driveline clunk is standard,! They alll clunk! Been driving them since 1971! Your lube will not do a thing!
They're cutters….they cut!!
So many stupid engineering ideas from the worst American vehicle manufacturer.
My subscribe button is white since I use Dark Mode…so it can be anything!
If you are going to index the rear of the shaft it would only make sense mark the front too. The idea is to put the shaft back where it was so as to not induce a vibration that wasn't there before. You could easily destroy a lot of hard work someone put in to kill a vibration and I doubt you have a Picoscope and the vibration software to re-repair it. I could be wrong. BTW I always reuse that type of clamp. I learned because I had to years ago because they were not readily available.I guess I should do a Youtube class on how to do this. LOL
It's nice to see your Wife Unit and better half helping you Ray. Amazing Team you guys are.
Shh. PTFE Lube is the same as Teflon Lube. Ray should never decorate a birthday cake!
That's a huge carrier bearing. Lands and Grooves Ray.
The new PRNDL's dial are just horrible. They don't last long and factory information is somewhat sketchy at best.
Good thing on the last abrupt stop the wheel didn't fall off do to loose lugnuts. or a loose and broken caliper mounting bracket.
Ray, I like the name on your paper bundles "Ray's Auto Clinic"
Watching you losing the clean-up battle with the blue goo lubricant, funny,,and nearly as hard as trying to keep anti-seize on the work piece and not all over youself and everything you touch!!
No need to index this style of drive line.
Enjoyed the video!
But please never beat on the drive shaft with any hammer or mallet.
And it’s called a “center support” bearing…..not a carrier bearing.
Those are found on the carrier inside of the differential……😊
Just a side note, Ray: You need to mark off a reserved parking spot for the Wife Unit so she has a known place to park so she does not block access . . .
Apprentice Mechanics get all the heavy work.
Hi Don
If you watch YouTube in dark mode on an iPad, the subscribe button is…white??? 😳
heres some constructive critisism,,bricks morter,,heres non constructive critisism,,morter..