49 thoughts on “Little things will end your job! take your time and don t screw up!”
Drain plugs all the way in or all the way out or you’ll forget…….. as I’ve heard a heavy equipment guy say and I agree 100% as another heavy equipment guy
good thing that the oil plug did not come off and all the oil was lost going down the rode that will be a very bad day you saved that customer from have a very $$$$ fix I will be very angry if that happed after I got a oil change I find out my oil plug was not secured properly good save
Many years ago I was assisting some colleagues (and a few Smurfs, they're real you know !) with a 100,000 mile service on a diesel locomotive. The village idiot (gotta love equal employment opportunities laws) was told to change the final drive transmission. He drained out the old oil, went to get the new oil and somehow got distracted in the process. When he came back, he put in the 50 litres oil. Waited for it to settle then checked the level. "Still empty" he said A quick check revealed that the drain plug was still sat on the rail and was not installed in the transmission. 50 litres of brand new oil just dumped into the waste oil catcher. And he wondered why he was the village idiot !
With steel oil pans I used to have a lot of confidence regarding how tight I could go before stripping it out, there was a big cushion for error, and falling out bolts was not a thing. Now with aluminum pans, or thinner steel pans, and varying designs for crush washers, the game is different. I don't know how a guy forgets to do this, I never thread in the pan bolt without wrench in hand. More likely there was something in the threads, and he lost confidence that it wasn't about to strip out. Then with the heat cycles and vibration of an engine, it loosened off. Maybe thread locker or sealant would help to prevent vibration from backing it out. I've never used a torque wrench for a pan bolt, but in this kind of case it might be wise, if only for legal reasons. Ha ha, maybe he went to get a torque wrench, and forgot🙃.
Yeah but the problem is you still have to prove it I'm going threw the same kinda problem myself had the driver side cv axel changed out last summer I also had a transmission leak at the time ok so guess where the leak is coming from the seal that goes to the side of the transmission where the CV axle goes into why did the mechanic not recommend replacing it because now I half to do the job over again luckily I have cousin that is a mechanic at a dealership and is going to do the work but really fact of the matter is that now I'm having to pay for the same job twice it just seem that every time I take my vehicle into a shop the job has to be done twice or they try to over sell you because any more they straight up do not know how to diagnose a problem correctly watching videos like this makes me smarter then them everyone wants to get paid but they don't want to do it right.
I had the same thing happen to me at a Chevy dealership years ago on a Malibu I used to own, I got an oil and filter change and the guy goes (here's your car) and while driving down the street going home I saw a line of fluid following me (no fluid in front of me) so I took it back to the dealership and they found the oil pan plug was only part way installed and not tight and leaking oil.
Before I did my own services on my new vehicle, I found numerous times the oil was overfilled. Once, they replaced the DP washer with one wrong size causing a dripping leak. Another time, they left the ignition on while draining the oil causing the low oil light to come on. They didn’t know how to reset the warning light, so they said I would need a new oil sending unit, that they would pay for, and provide me a loaner vehicle to drive. I told them how to do the reset procedure for the light. There are so many other stories of incompetence, and just on this one vehicle, because if I hadn’t purchased it new and had it under warranty, I would have been doing all of my own work and maintenance to know it was being done right.
Silly mistake, but not as bad as, say, leaving the oil fill nozzle in the valve cover, starting the engine, causing the nozzle to snap the timing belt, eh, Ray? 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
That actually happened to me, drain plug fell out 2 days after on oil change on the Garden State Parkway doing 75 mph.. scored the motor bad, dealer had to install a new motor…. was scary when that motor started banging….. I check now when I get my cars back from free oil changes at dealers.
I bought a car years ago that an oil change place had left the oil filter less than finger tight and hanging on by a couple of threads. That could have caused an engine to lock up had the oil filter came off and cost the oil change place 5k or more.
Had that happen to my semi truck right after a service. 9 gallons out of 11 flew out before I spotted the spray of oil. drove 58 miles. And that was a Cummins repair shop.
That's why I've always changed my own oil. I like the confidence it gives me knowing it was properly done with the highest quality materials available.
I highly recommend to the general public to decrease their exposure to quickie change errors by doing their oil changes via vacuum extraction. Then, once a year or so take it in for the oil and filter change…
I converted over to vacuum extraction a couple of years ago. It has really saved me a boat load of time by skipping the jack stand up and down effort. Once a year or so the family's vehicles are all up on jack stands anyway for other preventative maintenance and that's when I spin off the old oil filter and install a new one.
I am Not ripping, just trying to learn: I have seen a couple of your vids where during the oil change you check the "crush washer" on the drain plug, and replace if necessary. But you did not inspect the washer here. Maybe I don't understand what a crush washer's function is, but if it is past its useful life couldn't it be a path to where the bolt can bounce loose?
Thats one thing i would not have done with a running engine as what if threads were gone and it popped out and you wont have enough time to get out from under and let ramp down and powering off engine. Shit happens at times.
I had a coworker forget to tighten an oil plug twice. Both times it came back in and I covered for him. He then stole tools from me later on and began badmouthing my mistakes. He still turns wrenches and I left the industry. I caught him trespassing and streetracing down a busy road full of pedestrians.
once I was doing Tune up with oil change, flushed the oil changed the filters (air, Oil, Gas), Changed the spark plugs… and I poured 3 oil Quarters… when it hit me… I had NOT put back the oil plug at the bottom >_> I wasted almost 3 quartets of Oil cos I was rushing things…. 🙁 Since then I double and triple check to make sure everything is plugged/connected and screwed correctly where they are supposed to go. ah well live and learn they say….
That happened to my sister a few years ago. She had a little Chevy sedan that jiffy lube left the oil filter loose on. Took about a month for the oil to leak out and the engine to seize up. Only had 8k on the vehicle at the time
My daughter took her new Kia Soul + into the dealership for a scheduled oil, filter change. Before she left home to return to college after the school break, I decided to check her tires and oil. As soon as I opened the hood, I noticed the oil cap was sitting next to the hood latch and oil was all over the engine and hood undercover. I checked the oil level and nothing registered on the oil stick. I called the dealership and the service manager apologized for the mishap –and near engine disaster if my daughter would have gotten on the road for her two hour drive back to school. The manager offered to power wash the engine etc, and indicated placing the oil cap at the latch was its shop's technique to remind the tech to replace the oil cap. What was strange was no oil warning light or check engine light was activated. The manager told me the tech was since fired for a series of other poor technical actions.
You should of used a torque wrench!!!! This drain plug needed to be torqued to precisely 2 inch pounds! You fool! You are supposed to allow just enough oil to leak from the pan that by 3,000 miles it has flushed itself and all u need to do is top off. You fool, this is basic auto tech knowledge.
I hear you. I work for a jiffy Lube style oil change company and recently we turned a BMW X6 i35 drive into a brick because someone forgot to replace the drain plug in the oil pan. Needless to say they no longer work here. I love your videos keep on doing it Ray!!
Those quick lubes that changes the oil in 8 – 10 minutes. I don't know we're in the world you can change the oil, oil filter and air filter in 8 minutes, if you do, you're definitely doing it wrong, like this….
My friends cousin had his oil changed @ a dealership & the drain bolt fell out on a trip right after the oil change. The motor failed after all the oil drained out. Of course the dealership didn't want to take responsibility or pay for a new engine.
I once owned a car where the (non-American) manufacturer decided to change the oil filter thread spec in the middle of a production year. I still can't believe how stupid that move was. They switched from SAE to Metric, except the threads were close enough in size that the original SAE filter would loosely spin onto the block designed for a revised Metric filter. You had to look up the VIN to ensure using the correct filter. Somebody didn't. Filter blew clean off at 60 mph. I – I pulled it over immediately and killed the ignition and amazingly the car survived. It's the little stuff.
I remember one of the lube boys at the Chrysler dealership was called to the manager office in the middle of doing an oil change on one of those second gen minivan with the v6. Problem is the minivan got out the shop by another mechanic and was delivered without oil. It did 21km before needing a towing… and an engine.
Drain plugs all the way in or all the way out or you’ll forget…….. as I’ve heard a heavy equipment guy say and I agree 100% as another heavy equipment guy
I would of asked you to change the oil and filter just to be safe if I was the customer
good thing that the oil plug did not come off and all the oil was lost going down the rode that will be a very bad day you saved that customer from have a very $$$$ fix I will be very angry if that happed after I got a oil change I find out my oil plug was not secured properly good save
Many years ago I was assisting some colleagues (and a few Smurfs, they're real you know !) with a 100,000 mile service on a diesel locomotive. The village idiot (gotta love equal employment opportunities laws) was told to change the final drive transmission. He drained out the old oil, went to get the new oil and somehow got distracted in the process. When he came back, he put in the 50 litres oil. Waited for it to settle then checked the level. "Still empty" he said A quick check revealed that the drain plug was still sat on the rail and was not installed in the transmission. 50 litres of brand new oil just dumped into the waste oil catcher. And he wondered why he was the village idiot !
Are people so lazy they wont stick their head under their own car to at least attempt to see the leak origin? Fucking useless!
With steel oil pans I used to have a lot of confidence regarding how tight I could go before stripping it out, there was a big cushion for error, and falling out bolts was not a thing. Now with aluminum pans, or thinner steel pans, and varying designs for crush washers, the game is different. I don't know how a guy forgets to do this, I never thread in the pan bolt without wrench in hand. More likely there was something in the threads, and he lost confidence that it wasn't about to strip out. Then with the heat cycles and vibration of an engine, it loosened off. Maybe thread locker or sealant would help to prevent vibration from backing it out. I've never used a torque wrench for a pan bolt, but in this kind of case it might be wise, if only for legal reasons. Ha ha, maybe he went to get a torque wrench, and forgot🙃.
Yeah but the problem is you still have to prove it I'm going threw the same kinda problem myself had the driver side cv axel changed out last summer I also had a transmission leak at the time ok so guess where the leak is coming from the seal that goes to the side of the transmission where the CV axle goes into why did the mechanic not recommend replacing it because now I half to do the job over again luckily I have cousin that is a mechanic at a dealership and is going to do the work but really fact of the matter is that now I'm having to pay for the same job twice it just seem that every time I take my vehicle into a shop the job has to be done twice or they try to over sell you because any more they straight up do not know how to diagnose a problem correctly watching videos like this makes me smarter then them everyone wants to get paid but they don't want to do it right.
I had the same thing happen to me at a Chevy dealership years ago on a Malibu I used to own, I got an oil and filter change and the guy goes (here's your car) and while driving down the street going home I saw a line of fluid following me (no fluid in front of me) so I took it back to the dealership and they found the oil pan plug was only part way installed and not tight and leaking oil.
one 15 cent bolt couldve cost a company thousands 😳🤣✌🍺🇺🇸
That's the automatic ground lube feature, to keep the driveway from getting too dusty. I can't believe you've never heard about that.
Very disappointed in this video. Where was the obligatory "click"?!?!?!!
Before I did my own services on my new vehicle, I found numerous times the oil was overfilled. Once, they replaced the DP washer with one wrong size causing a dripping leak. Another time, they left the ignition on while draining the oil causing the low oil light to come on. They didn’t know how to reset the warning light, so they said I would need a new oil sending unit, that they would pay for, and provide me a loaner vehicle to drive. I told them how to do the reset procedure for the light. There are so many other stories of incompetence, and just on this one vehicle, because if I hadn’t purchased it new and had it under warranty, I would have been doing all of my own work and maintenance to know it was being done right.
Silly mistake, but not as bad as, say, leaving the oil fill nozzle in the valve cover, starting the engine, causing the nozzle to snap the timing belt, eh, Ray?
🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
Exact same thing happen to my wife's accord at a Honda dealership in Texas.. Told them about it and they did not give a crap
That actually happened to me, drain plug fell out 2 days after on oil change on the Garden State Parkway doing 75 mph.. scored the motor bad, dealer had to install a new motor…. was scary when that motor started banging….. I check now when I get my cars back from free oil changes at dealers.
VERY NICE WORK !!!!!!!! YOU SAVE THE CUSTOMER A LOT HEADACHE ~~~~~~~
I bought a car years ago that an oil change place had left the oil filter less than finger tight and hanging on by a couple of threads. That could have caused an engine to lock up had the oil filter came off and cost the oil change place 5k or more.
Had that happen to my semi truck right after a service. 9 gallons out of 11 flew out before I spotted the spray of oil. drove 58 miles. And that was a Cummins repair shop.
I was wondering if they changed their own oil. Then, he goes to the sticker. 😮
That's why I've always changed my own oil. I like the confidence it gives me knowing it was properly done with the highest quality materials available.
I highly recommend to the general public to decrease their exposure to quickie change errors by doing their oil changes via vacuum extraction. Then, once a year or so take it in for the oil and filter change…
I converted over to vacuum extraction a couple of years ago. It has really saved me a boat load of time by skipping the jack stand up and down effort. Once a year or so the family's vehicles are all up on jack stands anyway for other preventative maintenance and that's when I spin off the old oil filter and install a new one.
I am Not ripping, just trying to learn:
I have seen a couple of your vids where during the oil change you check the "crush washer" on the drain plug, and replace if necessary. But you did not inspect the washer here.
Maybe I don't understand what a crush washer's function is, but if it is past its useful life couldn't it be a path to where the bolt can bounce loose?
Thats one thing i would not have done with a running engine as what if threads were gone and it popped out and you wont have enough time to get out from under and let ramp down and powering off engine. Shit happens at times.
I had a coworker forget to tighten an oil plug twice. Both times it came back in and I covered for him. He then stole tools from me later on and began badmouthing my mistakes. He still turns wrenches and I left the industry. I caught him trespassing and streetracing down a busy road full of pedestrians.
3000 mile oil change interval? 5000 with synthetic? It's not 1960 anymore!
You forgot to say miniature van! LoL 😂
my 70's lada drives as daily on 4 years old oil :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd what do you think about it?
once I was doing Tune up with oil change, flushed the oil changed the filters (air, Oil, Gas), Changed the spark plugs… and I poured 3 oil Quarters… when it hit me… I had NOT put back the oil plug at the bottom >_> I wasted almost 3 quartets of Oil cos I was rushing things…. 🙁 Since then I double and triple check to make sure everything is plugged/connected and screwed correctly where they are supposed to go. ah well live and learn they say….
Good job Reeeeee😎
Why can't you pull the stick all the way out and not drag the oil across the front of the car. Not cool.
That happened to my sister a few years ago. She had a little Chevy sedan that jiffy lube left the oil filter loose on. Took about a month for the oil to leak out and the engine to seize up. Only had 8k on the vehicle at the time
Its all about the click
Lucky save could have ended in disaster
Makes you want to change your own oil everytime. I do just because of crap like this. These folks need to find a new place or do it themselves.
Moral of the story: If you haven't screwed it it down, you've screwed it up. ^.^
My daughter took her new Kia Soul + into the dealership for a scheduled oil, filter change. Before she left home to return to college after the school break, I decided to check her tires and oil. As soon as I opened the hood, I noticed the oil cap was sitting next to the hood latch and oil was all over the engine and hood undercover. I checked the oil level and nothing registered on the oil stick. I called the dealership and the service manager apologized for the mishap –and near engine disaster if my daughter would have gotten on the road for her two hour drive back to school. The manager offered to power wash the engine etc, and indicated placing the oil cap at the latch was its shop's technique to remind the tech to replace the oil cap. What was strange was no oil warning light or check engine light was activated. The manager told me the tech was since fired for a series of other poor technical actions.
You should of used a torque wrench!!!! This drain plug needed to be torqued to precisely 2 inch pounds! You fool! You are supposed to allow just enough oil to leak from the pan that by 3,000 miles it has flushed itself and all u need to do is top off. You fool, this is basic auto tech knowledge.
I hear you. I work for a jiffy Lube style oil change company and recently we turned a BMW X6 i35 drive into a brick because someone forgot to replace the drain plug in the oil pan. Needless to say they no longer work here. I love your videos keep on doing it Ray!!
Those quick lubes that changes the oil in 8 – 10 minutes. I don't know we're in the world you can change the oil, oil filter and air filter in 8 minutes, if you do, you're definitely doing it wrong, like this….
Well done Ray for finding that. 👍👍
My friends cousin had his oil changed @ a dealership & the drain bolt fell out on a trip right after the oil change. The motor failed after all the oil drained out. Of course the dealership didn't want to take responsibility or pay for a new engine.
I once owned a car where the (non-American) manufacturer decided to change the oil filter thread spec in the middle of a production year. I still can't believe how stupid that move was. They switched from SAE to Metric, except the threads were close enough in size that the original SAE filter would loosely spin onto the block designed for a revised Metric filter. You had to look up the VIN to ensure using the correct filter. Somebody didn't. Filter blew clean off at 60 mph. I – I pulled it over immediately and killed the ignition and amazingly the car survived. It's the little stuff.
Obviously we don't know the owner's situation, but why didn't they get underneath and check why it was dripping?
Oil drip aside, it looked nice and clean underneath for 139'000 miles 👍
Only thing worse is overtighting and stripping the thread…
I pulled a customer plug and it came out with the threads. I went and notified they needed a oil pan and oh boy were they pissed.
Dude your work is not clean
Almost as bad as forgetting to have a great day
I remember one of the lube boys at the Chrysler dealership was called to the manager office in the middle of doing an oil change on one of those second gen minivan with the v6. Problem is the minivan got out the shop by another mechanic and was delivered without oil. It did 21km before needing a towing… and an engine.