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Cheese Keys again. Honda Keys It's happening again. The same thing as a couple weeks ago. I Have a jam packed full parking lot with all kinds of stuff and the wife unit mobile again has a check engine light and it's the morning indicators and it always happens and the kids are on the way to school.

I Don't comprende what the deal is anyway. 2014 Honda Odyssey 187 184 miles forward Collision System Failure: check engine light is on not flashing Lane Departure warning Track Control warning something's going on again happening. Z Hood You know I'm making the crucial uh, less expensive auto repair mistakes I Think with this see once upon a time about a year ago we went down uh to Key West and same thing happened, had a bunch of misfires, found out it had a bad coil and then we put a coil in it and it stopped doing that. and then what? three? Four months ago? No, not even like two months ago, another busy day just like today and check engine light again and needed another coil.

And I have a sneaky suspicion that we need yet another coil. See, my problem is is I was doing this one at a time. Uh, contrary to my own advice, normally when there's a coil failure, my logic is is all of those coils were living in the same environment and if one coil is failing, then it stands to reason that the other coils are not far behind. I'm just speculating I don't know what's going on yet but I think it's got another bad coil.

so I I didn't follow my own protocol and now I'm paying for it again. Kind of. We'll see what our codes say. p0303 cylinder number three misfire Okie dokes power this down and where's my hood Blue release pop into the hood? Here we go.

Now What? I don't recall grinding noises is if I've already replaced a coil on number three or not and I believe number three is again on the back side I think one is back there I think number three is that that cylinder hang on. Loud noises and I can't see I think that is the number three coil like right in here somewhere. that guy I think now I know it's not a spark plug because I've already put a set of six plugs in it about a year ago. so I'm like 96 confident that it's not a spark plug issue.

but uh, I don't know about that coil. So let's uh, let's dig out number three and uh, we can see if that one has been replaced or not. I like I said I don't remember if I did that last time. Hmm, we're gonna move this inside because of grindy concrete Granite chopping up sounds.

it hurts my crane brainium restotting Z engine. Let's get out of here. Um, trash cans in the way. Is that okay? I Win I Win Yeah, that's better.

There we go, less sound power down. Hello Hi May I Borrow your computerizer. Thank you. All right So what we're gonna do here is I'm gonna copy the VIN number and we're gonna go up and open the all data.

Hmm ringer for landline phone? How about that? Let's see my all day time. How do I do this? Resume your journey? Awesome! Okay, we're going into repair and we're gonna go and paste the VIN number right here. It's going to populate the vehicle and then I want to search for firing order F I R I J did I spell that right. Sure did.
typing and spelling and recording is difficult. A Ignition coil specs I don't want that I just want firing order or cylinder identification. Oh it didn't give me the right chart. Okay here, let's just try P0303 that's the code Stone Degree misfire.

Yep I need to know which cylinder number three is. Tell me now. it's not telling me. It's telling me that the spark plug is the problem though.

I was wrong. How about procedures, remove stuff, blah blah blah. Maybe the pictures will show me where's the pictures? Nope. Well I couldn't find it in all data to save my life.

So I Googled the stupid stupid thing. And according to uh, the majority of all these graphs, number three is in the back. That's the one I thought it was so we're just gonna use I didn't want this. Forearms are bad, all right.

So the number three cylinder is the one that I thought it was. Let's go pull that coil and see if that coil is in fact a new coil or not a new coil I think last time I did number two or the one in the middle I really don't remember. So here, let's get rid of our cover again. Unkick the covers goodbye and turn that on.

please. she's helping. There's a button. you push the button.

Oh, push the button. There you go Newman's and then we can turn it. Check that out. See that this is cool too.

We have I got a mirror with a light on it because I need to see which one of these I'm trying to see is it didn't help. Now that light's not helping, we're turning that off for now. No no no no no no no no no. can't see what I'm looking for.

You guys can't see either. It's ridiculous. All right I give up on that plan I'm just gonna reach in there and take number three out. which is yeah, that thing's kind of way back there I feel the there's the bolt right there I can feel the bolt and I've got the connector look right on my fingertip here.

Hang on. Unconnect. Yeah, there's our connector. All right.

We need a 10 millimeter and I'll fish that bolt out of there. It's actually a nut. Uh, I Can't help but to use those terms interchangeably. 10 Milli where did you go? 10 mil click All right.

So we're gonna do a lot of feeling around and not so much looking because uh, we can't see. Uh yeah. extension on clicks. Got it all right.

That should just be hand tight. Now reach back there and get the nut off. There she is I don't know I Feel like this is a recently replaced coil. my uh, my spider senses are indicating to me that oh, it's stuck that um I think I already changed this one last time I don't remember.

you guys remember the survey says I can't see it. there's a hose I'll push that hose aside. Hang on bear with me fellas. this is.
this is harder to do than I thought and what is this? oh, it's hot is what it is. Yeah I already changed this coil once. Is this a re-failure Okay I'm gonna order another one. Yeah I already changed this one once.

This better not be a defect Okie dokes I've had a replacement coil show up I bought the same one. it was a import direct just in case. just in case this thing is, uh, faulty. I can send it back.

Um. Lube lubricant Lube Where's my Dielectric I See it there? It is right there. It's hiding behind the brake. Clean.

found you. Hmm. Part of me suggests that perhaps it wasn't the coil, but if it's not the coil, it's not the spark plug. What is it? I Don't know.

Let's pop this new one in and find out. I'm sure it's going to run just fine and then oh I actually I don't know I don't know what it's gonna what it's gonna do I cannot predict future. Get in there number three coil. it's that heater hose kind of blocking me up.

Come on there. get in the hole. There we go. All right now I do need to plug this in before I connect it or before I seat it fully because that connector is hard to to line up.

The whole unit sits recessed behind this uh wiring harness. Steel Oh click. Nope. non-click there it is okay and I need to line up the stud with the hole in the coil and then we can bolt it down.

Good to go. We've got our 10 millimeter nut around that guy down and I should just keep spare coils in this car. No, no I shouldn't say things like that. That's bad.

If your car needs spare parts to be reliable then maybe you need a new car or a better mechanic. No, that's terrible. I just said that. Uh, one more turn clickage right there.

Okay restarting the engine. Is it going to live sure powering on? Uh-huh So far so good. Let's get back into our scanner tool here. let's see if I can't monitor some misfire data real quick.

Like feels good data Misfire data More Steam Looking around, looking around, here's my misfire counts. We've got zero current misfires on number three and it shows that there were some misfire events that were previously logged. Let's put it in gear and actually put a load on it and we've got zero misfires. Okay, back in park I'm gonna go ahead and clear these codes again and looks like I'm sending that coil back uh as a defect.

clear coat. No no I don't want to see them again I Just want to clear them. Clearing Clearing Clearing Clear Codes begin clearing. Now up.

it won't let me engine running I Gotta shut it down some of these. You can get away with clearing them while engine's running. it's it's a bad habit, but it's a habit nonetheless. Let's try again.

Clearing Clearing again, Continuing Codes cleared, restocking Z engine and Nod uh, we have still failing. Why are we failed? and let's try it again. Oh you know what? I bet it has Collision system or Active Radar or whatever code stored in another module. So I need to clear all the modules so we're going to clear all codes read by a code.
scan ignition off or on engine off. yes, satellites linking up in outer space collecting data. This is how I get through my day. Seriously, it's like stupid noises and catchphrases and stuff like if I'm not entertained then uh then I become evil technician and that's never good.

Nobody likes evil technician. You guys have seen them. The guy that just looks at you like you're looking at him because he's working on your car and he sees you seeing him and you see him seeing you seeing him and you think it's okay and he's just like, don't talk to me. Yes, you've seen that guy.

You I know you've seen him. he's at the tire shop. They're everywhere. the world is full of angry technician.

See that's why I'm in a good mood or I try to be most of the time I'm trying to do that Gandhi thing you know, lead by example like we live in a world of suck sometimes like Chevrolet Avalanche bolts and it's either a comedy or a tragedy and we can choose to live in a comedy or a tragedy. So I choose to, uh, live in the comedy because you know in a tragedy, the hero dies at the end and and nobody wants to die at the end. I have no idea what I'm talking about today. I'm I'm losing it like I'm totally losing my brain.

It's over. Is this thing done yet? See, this is how you turn an evil technician. Wait all day for your scan tool. Um, okay, everyone got a stuff to ramble on about.

I'll be back when this thing is done. Stay right here. Don't go anywhere, just checking in to make sure you're still here. This thing is still going.

It's taking its time to clear all the modules. beard. Ah well. I suppose while that thing's doing its thing I can come out here and do my thing and kind of put this back together a wee little bit.

Let's see the pegs, plug into the little rubber things right there. I'll just put this cover back on cover. Clinkages? Um. I'm gonna line up.

what's up yo? Get in there there. nice plastic screw. There we go. let's see.

Hey, are we done yet? Yes. 22 modules cleared. How about that? That's a lot of modules. Okay, power down, foot on break, restartings the engine and now we have no more warning indicating indicators.

This is good. All right, that's a successful operation for the time being. The misfire is no longer misfiring. I Really hope that was just a faulty coil, which actually surprises me because it was a fairly expensive unit.

Either way, it's getting sent back don't cost me, except it wasted some time is what it is. No big deal. So uh, that being said, I'm gonna go ahead and close this little short video out right now. As always like thank you for watching this video.

hope you enjoyed this video. Let me know what you think about repeat failures in the comments section down below. Let me know what you think about my Diag process and most importantly, do not forget to tap that like button and to have yourselves a great day. See you guys later! End of Honda Odyssey 3.5 V-tech All right.
Watch this. Watch this learn. Come on, get out of here. your van's done.

Oh Yes! I'm backing out Seattle I think I'm in trouble for that one guys. Yeah, I might be in trouble for that one Whoopsie error.

98 thoughts on “No time for this. reloading parts cannon! 2014 honda odyssey 3.5”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars ben garrido says:

    We had a 2013 same thing coming back from a long vacation with the kids. Same warning lights came on and it was a coil pack. Then like you said a few months later another coil. Good video brother!

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars TheMrDudiness says:

    Honda is not a reliable brand anymore. Tons of transmission issues, oil dilution problems with their new turbo engines and in general quality is declining to the point below some domestic brands. Horrible. Only Toyota still holds reliability status and Koreans improved greatly to the level of surpassing Honda.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Preston Spencer says:

    not the coil not the spark plug, bad ground? My sister's car kept burning coils I checked the ground never had another problem again.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alan OReilly says:

    I hate working on new cars, old cars were so much better, the only down side was the points, but you could fix them on the side of the road most of the time and get a new set almost any were, I remember getting a bubble pack of spark plugs and points in the super market, you could even get head lights and coils,
    Head lights, round only 2 sizers
    Points & plug sets, only 6 sets, GM V8 & 6, Ford V8 & 6, Valiant V8 & 6. Life was good back then.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Melissa James says:

    You would be sleeping on the couch tonight lol

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeff Keryk says:

    Denso coils, my man.

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Constitutional Right says:

    Ray, sadly we all die at the end. 😉

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Don's Junkmail says:

    Yeah… spooking her like that… you best order a pizza… the creapest safe short solution…or if want to much much much safer take her to restaurant of her choice…

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Donald Halls says:

    Thanks again, all the best to you and your loved ones, and don't forget to have yourself a great day too

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Mapson says:

    Nothing wrong with your own car maintenance logic. Plumbers taps drip, carpenters floors creek, IT guys computers overheat

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Justin Teno says:

    Wasting your time putting ignition parts for a rear bank misfire it needs a rebuild re ring the back 3 cylinders vcm kills the rear bank

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jeffrey Anderson says:

    keep records on what you do to each car or truck you work on!

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Andrew G says:

    Ray, I so appreciate you taking us along on your adventures. The part where you scared your wife was even better! Thanks for the ride, looking forward to many more! Hope you have a comfortable couch at home. On a technical note, are '04 3.5 Odysseys "less advanced" and if so, trade in the '14!!! Or, get her a dang diesel, man! She's earned it, have you met her husband?

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 4bangerlove says:

    I just went through this with a nissan versa. Replaced one against my better judgment and once back together under a load another one was missing. They all got replaced after that and it runs great.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Guido Sarducci says:

    Ringer for online phone? Sounds like you're looking for doodly doos!!!! Woohoo!

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark S says:

    VIN means Vehicle Identification Number. VIN Number means Vehicle Identification Number Number. Otherwise, the video was great like all of your others.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Valentin Rosu says:

    Hmm , based on my experience with those engines it's possible that you'll need more than just a coil to fix that permanently , they have a bad habit to burn the valves those

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Me Z says:

    Ray, I want to say that your subtle movie references/lines do not go unnoticed!! I try to explain to my wife that I'm not the only one who does that on a daily basis! 🙃

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Brodeur says:

    Oh no Ray, say it isn't so! "VIN Number"??? Sorry, that's one of my pet peeves. 🙂 What is a Vehicle Identification Number Number. LOL

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Brodeur says:

    Following along with the comments below, I just went through an engine replacement due to VCM causing ring failures. Making a 14 hour trip to Colorado, I lost compression finally and the car went into limp mode. I was able to limp it 50 miles to the next town thankfully, but the cost of doing the rings was more than I paid for an engine with 105k less miles. Turns out compression was bad on all the cylinders that were disabled by VCM. I immediately installed the S-VCM Controller to disable the VCM. Funny thing is I was showing no oil (or very very minimal) oil consumption and I do my oil changes religiously. However, I purchased the car used (only had it 2 months) so I don't know how it was treated before me. Honestly, with the VCM disabled, I get almost the same gas milage as I was getting when it was in use. I've had a number of these V6 engines and this was the first one to ever fail so I'm hoping disabling the VCM will turn it back into the quality engine it was meant to be.

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Wayne Goin says:

    Land ph ringer tones being searched. could this mean dooodlieedoooos in the near future 🙂

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 8 8 says:

    check engine light…if its running you know its there

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Les Reeves says:

    I have never had a re-failure .Damn just jinxed myself.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Stephane Neron says:

    That 3.5 V6 engine, These J series was one of their best they ever produced…

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars zepp3lin says:

    You should use OEM coils next time like Denso/Hitachi or NGK spec for that Honda. Aftermarkets are cheap but it won't last long unless you wanna sell your vehicle for a quick fix.

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars BIG COUNTRY TX says:

    Ray!!! Was that ringtone search meant for the coveted “doooley doooley dooo”?😎😁

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars jesse wynne says:

    Sorry but I don’t trust odyssey they have had so many problems with transmissions in the past, even up till like mid late 2000s very weak transmissions. And very sensitive sensors. Although the four cylinders match the power of the week transmissions, so the four-cylinder’s were actually better compared to the six were they were just burning transmissions because of too much power.

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars NODADDYiT_HuRtS69 says:

    As me and my mother being a small business owner, I had a strong feeling that you would make your own business. Happy for you!

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars GodzillaFirebox says:

    Ray, you said that you choose to live in a comedy because in a tragedy the hero dies in the end.

    I hate to break it to you, but tragedy, comedy, or history, we all die in the end!

    But that's a good thing. It's nature's way of clearing out the old to make way for the new!

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Chambers says:

    I do the one at a time for coil failures on my own vehicles. I keep the receipt with cylinder number on the receipt. The last fail with my bug was a cyl 2 wire issue not a coil after i had picked up a new coil on my way back to my test equipment. I now have a coil waiting the #2 coil fail , that would be the fourth coil for that engine.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Don Kaiser says:

    Happy is the man who can sleep with both eyes shut!

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KC Outdoor activities says:

    Haven’t had to send one of my cars out for a basic service. But recently had to, since I was hospitalized. I cannot believe the type of service from small basic shop is disappointing.

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rob B says:

    Great job RainMan. Enjoyed watching

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Robert Engster says:

    Hey be smart
    Purchase your own parts store..
    With shop next Door.

    Great idea Huh?.

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars MigFer says:

    Revenge is a meal best served cold.
    Wife Unit.

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars News Now Riverside Sgt Rock says:

    I hear an "X-Files Unit."

  37. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Pedro betancourt says:

    A must in this van it's to turned off VCM

  38. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kathleen Kelly-Simpson says:

    I think Ray is the only Mechanic I've seen take care of the Wife Unit's car right away.
    I'm a Mechanic's daughter, and Mom's car was always last because it didn't pay any bills.

  39. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Vogel says:

    "Nobody wants to die at the end" But Ray, when are we supposed to die? If we die at the beginning it is still the end…just more sad.

  40. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sandyman45 says:

    I think it's time to buy the wife unit a new car

  41. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Thirza Peevey says:

    We all die at the end. Please give me a list of all the people who aren't going to die in the end? That is why it is so important to make peace with God now.

  42. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ryan says:

    @Ray, I know youve prolly checked what Im about to say but incase you havent, heres a list I would tend to go down and keep in mind im still learning.

    1. If its #3 that keeps going bad have you tried looking at the spark plug ignition cables themselves? Are they worn or damaged?

    If its still continues try, it could have too high resistance or could have a gap in the middle of the conductor itself.

    2. Coils, spark plugs, tracing the wires for a lose connection or bad wire, oxygen sensor, fuel injector, poor compression, burnt exst valve, low or no fuel, fuel delivery issues, vacuum leaks, carbon tracking.

    3. have your wife write a list of where shes getting her gas, they may be diluting it

    Could it be a faulty catalytic converter or defective computer system, maybe a leaky seal or gasket.

    Either way i hope you are able to figure it out, like i said I wasnt sure if you tried all these but since it keeps happening id check. Also I dont know if Lauren checked the gaps b4 installing the spark plugs, or if you did but that could be it too. Love the videos, thank you for all your hard work.

  43. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Noah Long says:

    You should disconnect the VCM system. That rear bank of cylinders are the ones actuated by it and it seems to mess all kinds of things up. These J35s come into the dealership all the times with problems like this caused by VCM, especially piston rings.

  44. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Paul Schott says:

    I also hate repeat repairs. I had to change my battery 2017 Ford Escape. Just did it in July. You have to take off the cowl PITA . A case of the Die Hard that died easily.

  45. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Phuoc Nguyen says:

    why you didnt you just take the coil out on cylinder 4 port and swap it on the other cylinder and that tell you if its the coil 🤷

  46. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars scott king says:

    Bought an extra coil for my F150 and put in the glove box last time I changed a bad coil. Still there after 3 years…

  47. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars matt wigren says:

    Bet his kids are popping z hood.