In this video I show a quick tip when looking for the cause of a misfire on these 1.6 Ford Escapes. This not to uncommon of an issue but is often forgot about when looking for the cause of a misfire.
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Got short one here for us folks 2014 It's the Ford Escape It's got the big six uh, customer complate of engine light. No other problems P0304 is what it has. so a cylinder 4 misfire took it for a drive thing runs like a top. Uh, shut it off, let it heat soap for a little while.
Still seems good. Uh so needless to say I did look in Freeze Frame Date I Wanted to see when does this misfire occur? So I'll show you what I saw here. Which leads this to the problem that all these Fords have but just show you just in case. Uh so the engine's warmed up during Freeze Frame Data Uh, when this fault was captured.
Uh the big thing is here, the engine only been running for 71 seconds. That's when it you know cataloged this this 304. This misfire. Uh so that tells us a couple things.
You know, we can drive it. we can, you know, let it sit, start to cool down and then try to you know catch the misfire which I did and it's very brief, just enough to set a light Co pressure tester on there. they've already played. swap Tronics with coils and spark plugs and all that.
and then I've got our depth stck, oscilloscope or our endoscope down in the cylinder here and let's have a look at that I got the 90 camera on that's not good lady. Uh, so what we're seeing here just to kind of give us reference is we're looking at the top of the cylinder head where the cylinder head. Those are the valves or two of the valves. There's another valve that's open.
But more importantly, we're seeing that little coolant drop. she's heading all the way to the bottom. These cameras are pretty cool so we can take swap it around to the straight camera. Well it's going to go D It's going to go duel on us here.
Put it so it faces down so we can see the piston and it's getting kind of steamy in there. So the the camera view is not the best because it's steamed up. but if we let this sit long enough we would see. Yeah, she's all fogged out on me.
Uh, we would see the coolant starting to accumulate down there in the bottom corner of the Piston. But I'll take and put this back on the 90 camera where we can pull it up here and we're essentially looking like I Say right at the side of the head. We'll find our coolant drip again here. We'll just keep spinning it around.
it somewhere is in there. There it is. So there's our coolant just filling up that cylinder and that's that's the reason this thing has a cylinder. 4 Misfire.
Um, but yeah, these endoscopes are pretty cool. Got the Astro coolant pressure tester on there. Uh, super convenient where Ford puts the Juck but fortunately it's not boled in so you can just pop them out. So anyhow, hopefully this gu uh will help you track down and misfire on something.
Use your Freeze Frame data. use your Clues Uh, you know of course this is a common problem with these engines. Uh, it's going to need a new engine I think Ford had a bulletin on them. something like that I look into it. don't know if she'll fix it but just wanted to share this with you. Thanks for watching.
I thought quality was job 1 at Ford?
My 2012 focus 1.6 ecoboost decided to crack between the spark plug and exhaust valve seat, got the head replaced only for the heat gasket to leak a few months down the line. After removal and inspection the deck of the block had warped thanks to the crap open deck design. Safe to say I'm staying away from Fords for life now, well at least the engines we get over in the UK ….. Would mind a coyote V8 but would have to sell my kidneys to insure and run one 😂.
Greetings from Argentina (south America). We would take the head off, replace the gasket, take the head to the machine shop, look at the block, crankshaft, rod bearings, if not ok, we take it to the machine shop, if not, re assemble and she is good to go…. Engines are way to expensive. Labor is cheap compared to US, parts are expensive, but will not justify replacing an engine….
It's the Prince of Chintz. They come up with these great designs, and then seem to saddle them all with a fatal flaw.
Unless someone gives me the money, I won't buy a new car…
Wiiii😂
Coolant intrusion I'm sure… not even fully through the video.
Same My 2018 Jeep Renegade. Head gasket. Trade. Other car.
Ford were quality is job none! In the good old days, you could take care of little problems like this with K&W block sealer.
Eric, That’s a big WOW endoscope image! Several Static drips within a minute! Ford you say? Who would have guessed!….haha
Easy fix.
It is a block issue not a gasket issue Ford re-designed the blocks on these engines. I hear they did extend the warranty on these, but knowing Ford it was a short lived program. I would have them contact Ford to see if they will warranty it under a customer care specialist. It might save them some money. I know how this person feels we had a similar issue happen on a 2015 Fusion SE with a 2.5l engine at 22k miles. Ours had a cracked cylinder head in 3 places and was fixed under warranty. That car was nothing but problems so we traded it in on a 2020 Camry SE and in 2023 it has had no problems and been flawless glad we went back to Toyota! If she does not fix it tell her to buy a Rav 4 or if she does not have the money for it a Camry or Corolla would be great choices.
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That is the engine shedding tears, poor engine. Never had a chance. Cut-down so early in life.
Thanks!
Ford should give a free box of Kleenex tissues to anyone who buys one 😅
Newbie Question?
Does that mean that it has a head gasket leak? Or does that mean that the head is damaged since it's near the valve?
You said it's going to "need a new engine "but does it need a new engine, or just a new head or a head gasket?
I love when Eric is saying big with 1.6 litter engine but also with 6.0 cummins.
Would've liked to know the mileage on this thing. Didn't even make it to be 10 yrs old.
Your a good man MR O.
Makes me want to run out and buy one right away 😂
Bars leak head gasket repair
Andy is a drip…
Electronic coolant flow control solenoids, and active grille shutters, combined with an electronic clutch on the water pump gives these engines 4 times as many failure points that can cause catastrophic overheating conditions.
its uallay the short block that gets changed out i seen numerous of these have small cracks in them that is very hard to see ford has a tsb for this concern
You taking a break? You deserve it if you are but I miss your videos😢
1.6 turbo in an Escape is a crime in any case.
This is what happens when you put a turbo on way too small of a motor trying to push power out of it seeking fuel economy. Unreliable garbage.
First go-to test on the Nissan QR25DE engines for the same problem too 👍
Engines could be made more durable, not prone to things like this, but certain big manufacturers seem to be bent on squeezing customers as hard as is legal, and then some. This is where restraining capitalism practices via enforced legislation needs to step in, such as with better anti-lemon laws.
Did you ever do a video on your shop remodel?
Huh…Interesting
100% correct as usual sir. As noted below, these Ford Engines are a nightmare and I pray that Ford will offer some sort of replacement engine deal, though on a 9 yo vehicle I doubt it.
It’s always the same makes in the shop (Chevy, Nissan, ford), junk
In my opinion, people should not contact ford, to see if the guarantee will cover an other engine. Ford knows already about this because they don't care. Don't worry about contacting ford for this because you have that caind of money to pay ford for these piles of junk.
Contact your self first, before making a purchase and this will never happen.
When Eric gets to say "here's your problem lady", priceless. The engine is crying from abuse. Never lie to your Dr. or your Mechanic, they will find the truth.
How can they get away with this. Made in America.
Ford commercial plays after the video 😄
Great find. You're still The Man Eric!
Solution is to relieve pressure from the cooling system after engine shutdown 😁
serious question how would you fix it if you had to or how would a engine rebuilder fix it so it would never leak again…
i hope they got it fixed for free under the recall…
solid UAW workmanship from people who think they deserve a 40 percent raise…
newer Hondas with their 1.5 turbo are a disaster, same poor block to head design as the Ecoboost. Makes me glad to drive a non-turbo, hybrid
Great job !
Thanks for sharing!
Your diagnostic work is excellent in my opinion
Ford really screwed up by the numbers when they designed this line of engines.
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Ford, the most recalled brand in 2022 and thus far in 2023, why anyone would spend a dime on one I'll never know.
Nice camera might get one of those
You mean that is not Ford hydrogen power engine?
This is what happens when you try to make tiny little turbocharged engines move SUVs instead of normal-sized, naturally aspirated motors: premature failure. Sadly, it seems that the days of reliable vehicles are pretty much history.
Steel Seal. Fixed for years.
GEEZ! I have that year Escape, with that engine.
This video is like sex ….. quick and satisfying.
I wouldn't own a FORD today for nothing! Seen too many horror stories on their products.
There's a video on here where someone does a quick strip-down of one of these engines and it's truly shocking how tiny the gasket width is between cylinders to allow for the ridiculous water channel.
Add K-seal for 3 days, drain, flush, and refill with 50/50 antifreeze and 1 bottle of Subaru coolant system conditioner.
I had to change an engine in a 2018 Ford Edge with 65,000 miles. It was out of factory warranty but I had the extended warranty and it was fixed that way, with little cost to me. Ford engineers should NEVER have released a engine with that design. I'm sure it was cheaper and quicker to produce by simply cutting s groove from one side of the piston to the other, to connect the coolant jacket, but the mating surface on the head wasn't large enough to withstand the pressure of the compression and eventually creating a path for coolant to crossover to another piston. The new engine design is more logical and it's running okay now.
Eric, I love the channel and the format of the videos. Long time viewer first, first time to comment.
Well there's your problem lady! Good job Mr O
Sir:
As always enjoy your great content, you and WWW being my favorites.
Do you see vehicles improving as you progress into the years?
sell it QUICK
Nice to see it! I had a 2017 Focus with a 1.5 ecoboost, but here in the UK Ford denied all knowledge of the head issues. But was told I needed a new engine after only 11K… but all 1.5 production was going to the US and it would be months before a new engine was available. I sold it back to Ford and went to BMW after being a life long Ford customer, such a shame it went that way….
good ole ford and their glitches,and them morons want to pay union chumps more money to keep screwing stuff up!!
Honestly.. You can still drive it for years like that here in Oklahoma.. Just keep your coolant topped off; as long as it doesn't hydro-lock the cylinder and you're oil isn't getting milky. Just ignore the misfires and keep her screaming. Might be worth the hassle to try and tighten the head bolts a bit.. Pump in some anti leak copper crap into the radiator every oil change. 🙂 … You might get lucky and it lasts for years. What is there to lose.. sucks for you guys though, because you have to pass inspection. smh
I grabbed that same scope (well ds300, rather than the 350- but it's essentially the exact same one). It was used on fleebay for only 40 dollen, shipped. It has already paid for itself. 🙂 … I wasn't sure if I was going to get it, but then I watched your review on the thing; so it was a no brainer. Best 40 duckets I've spent in a while.
Your customer may want to contact Ford with their vin and see if warranty will cover a engine replacement. My former co-worker had this exact issue. Took it to ford and found out he was still within the warranty period. His only complaint with the process was he thought Ford was taking too long with the long block swap. I had to teach him what a long block swap actually was. After that he was a little calmer about the situation. He was a lube tech at my shop that unfortunately got himself fired because he left too many oil filters loose in a row and customers came back complaining about it. Our manager fired him for it and now he's been playing the blame game with why he got fired and not taking responsibility for the issues.
had my 17 escape do the same,,,got a new engine since it was a certified vehicle,,,106$ and i was back on the road
Most all those crappy Ecoboost are recalled now. Ford messed up on that one!!
WoW that Endoscope is really Handy ! And Helpful ! 😊😊😊
Block defect on all Ford 4 cyl. Ecojunk. Ford isnt stepping up like Kia/Hyundai did on their mistake. Ive had customers with $10k+ estimates from Ford dealers.
good diagnosis master, a question when will you try the new impact astro thor G2 1895? Is it stronger than the previous version?
Not an escape, but both a coworker and myself have had cars within the last couple days same issues. 2007 wrangler, and a 2003 tacoma w/2.7. I used a Depstech camera you linked during a sale, worked great! Psst… Works better than the shop foremans snap on camera 😅
Wow that was smart
Subaru had similar issues until they redesigned the block.
Sadly these are disposable cars. Wait until you get a 1.0 Ecoboost in with low oil psi… Let’s put a rubber belt soaking in hot engine oil. Then people wonder why I have been full EV love for the last few years
A temporary way to get by with most blown head gaskets that only leak after shut down like this.. You can loosen the coolant cap.. so that it does not build pressure.. this works pretty well especially in winter time.. could cause a boil over in summer.. depends on the car..
Or loosen the cap right after shutdown.. be careful with that.. just loose enough to hiss, and let pressure out… not take the cap OFF.
Can give you some time to figure out what you want to do… fix or scrap it. Also.. will keep the check engine light off.. if you need to just get thru an registration emissions test.
No , no, no this is the new ford auto combustion cleaning option. Cleans top of piston and cylinder head combustion chamber.
Ten year old car ,you throw away now ,no good
The Ferd engineers really screwed the pooch on this one.
Typical Ford. Junk.
No bulletin on the 1.6L, just the 1.5 and 2.0… I just had the same issue on a customers 1.6L escape, ended up doing a head gasket and getting the cylinder head machined. Checked the block with a straight edge, no issues with it. Been a month or two since the repair and haven't heard of the cold start misfire occurring again.
That camera you have to view inside the cylinder is the tool of the hour. Sure nails the failure down better than anything else, even removing the head might not give you doubtless evidence for that leak.
I think , believe its great to have an honest mechanic/technician and a person of your talents ,Eric . You could had talked them into head gaskets ,made money ,but you didnt . Hats off to you Sir . I have met many machanics that just dont seem to care about the customer . You ,from what i have watched get right down to the cause of the probem .
The Head -> Block junction is one area that won't tolerate anything less than "Quality is Job #1". Ford has had this problem before, too – remember the windstar?
Ah yes…the big 1.6
What's the mileage on this Escape? Mine is a 2016 and has 123k, curious if I'm on borrowed time…..
There should be a law about these companies manufacturing junk. There’s nothing out there worth taking a chance on anymore.
I’ve encountered this issue quite a bit unfortunately. Never good news but at least the issue is pinpointed.
K-Seal time.
I have a Depstech , not that one but yes they are nice. You can also capture a photo or video for show and tell if need be.
This is exactly why I think trying to turbo all these tiny engines and get 250+hp out of them is the dumbest trend auto makes have been doing. Turbo's will eventually break themselves or something internally. You wont get 175-250K miles out of these engines, like you do a naturally aspirated engine.
Seems like running with the reservoir cap loose so pressure doesn't build up would help a lot. Not worth replacing the engine on your dime for a ten year old car.
Good going!!!! Who woulda thought a leaking head gasket would do that? I bought a Depstech just like yours when you recommended it a while back. I sure hope mine never has to see a leak like that……
they had to short my escape for same reason. anyone that would look at the design of the block would know that they will eventually fail. glad someone went to college to learn to be that stupid. I am being nice when I say that.
(Scratches Ford from future used vehicle purchase list).
Found on Road Dead (FORD) Again. What are people Thinking ? Junk it. 🤪👎
Knowing what to look for and how to find it is cool. Awesome man.
Thanks for sharing.