49 thoughts on “Worn to a nub! ignition is stuck!”
The 2 key system. Just like most cars in the 70's and 80's, one for the ignition that were squared and one for the doors and trunk that were round. Great video!!
A dealership for that brand of car can sell you a new ignition switch and new keys after getting the key code from the VIN number, negating the need for two different keys (ignition and 2nd key for doors and trunk). Had it done on a Chevy Malibu that I bought used years ago. Person has to prove they own the car (registration or title).
Nothing wrong with 2 keys. I have one for ignition and one for the boot lid. Trouble was they were both black and looked the same. Solution:- bottle of the wife’s nail varnish 😃👍. Now boot lid key has bright red fob. Job done click. You have a nice day👍
Changed the key and tumbler but never mentioned electrical wires and connections. I only see one tab on the unit and Ray never mentioned it or connected to it. What gives? TIA
Here’s the scoop. If you go to a locksmith they will be able to code cut a new key. Meaning the new key will be cut to factory specs. Cheaper than a new ignition. We charge $10 to code cut a new key from the old key. I know this because I do it every day.
Factory keys are stronger metal than aftermarket keys. Always write down the key number, and save an original key in case duplicates need to be made later on.
The door locks on my 1988 Mazda truck could be opened by pretty much anything. I bought a set from RockAuto and installed those, and kept my ignition tumbler factory as is the fuel door lock. I thought having separate keys would bug me, but it hasn't, so I scrapped plan to get them all keyed alike.
I love your channel but As I own this truck with the very same issue. It’s not the key. There’s a bushing in the shifter. It’s the cause. Google sometimes is win.
Really? It was more expensive to have a key made? I had a similar issue on my older Toyota truck and I had to remove the passenger side door lock and take it to the dealership. Apparently, that has the key code on it so they made me a new original key for around $12
As someone from the Netherlands enjoying your content after one video popped up in recommended, I do wonder what's up with all the ding-ding noises the cars make.. is that a US only thing?
well, poor customers. Having two keys like everyone else used to have before the whole "you only need one key to make you life easier" decision by the big three. Which was just before the whole "all you really need is a button".
Thanks for taking the time out of your day to record and narrate all the helpful videos that you do. I've definitely benefited from the skills you have shared.
Recently, I was helping a friend with an issue similar to this with her 1998 Toyota Sienna. Not only was she having intermittent issues with the ignition cylinder sticking, but also with the door lock cylinders. I advised her to have the local Toyota dealer cut a new key using the key code (no trace cuts). About $15 later all was well.
I'm shocked that the local dealer cost for a key cut from the VIN code was more expensive than replacement of the ignition cylinder (parts and labor). I'd imagine that your shop likely charged around one hour for your time, plus parts.
Do you have any concerns with the old and worn key to continue being used in the door locks? Seems likely problems will occur at some point.
Being former GM.SAAB and independent mechanic here in Sweden, I have a hard time to understand how You are employed, as You obviously have to provide your own tools and other equipment? Is that normal in the US ?
had similar problem on a Hyundai iMax with about 90,000kms i used as a hire car on a holiday bout 7-8yrs ago key wouldn't remove rang apex the hire company n they sent out rcaa tech to fix n they couldnt fix even though i knew what problem was covered me for leaving key in ignition n told me to leave window down for the night and return car in the morning and gave me a near new hire car with less that 2,000kms on the clock the difference in the 2 cars was amazing worked out good as got a near new car and seen what these Hyundai iMax were like after 90k off abuse so i never got a new one as was thinking off buying one as the family people mover anyone with 4 kids knows the abuse cars get ended up getting another 80 series landcruiser 1990 model 3fe on lpg and petrol the 80 series has taken yrs off abuse its mostly used for offroad and camping and footy training and games over 425,000kms on the clock the 3fe 80 not as good as the turbo diesel i had in the 1997 i have but she takes a good beating off-road and still keeps ticking the only problem im having now is the lpg mileage has gone from 300km a tank to about 120km a tank would be great if rainman ray ever gets a lpg powered car in for diagnostics
I have an Isuzu rodeo of the 1995.5 model year variety that exhibits the same issues sometimes. Not that the ignition necessarily gets stuck in the on/run position, but that the key is so worn that Sometimes it’s hard to turn on. It seems to exhibit the issue more on a cold day. I have tried to find some replacement keys to have cut, but I don’t know if the blade is different on the replacement key the locksmith cut for me, but it does not even fit properly in the ignition Tumblr or the door locks for that matter. Every time I go in and ask for parts or something for my Isuzu rodeo I always get strange looks. Am I weird for wanting to keep it going?
Medicated?? Just whose rear end is that used on? Taking the dash apart, reminded me of too many uncomfortable times upside down, head on floor, feet over seat back, taking out a well buried headlight switch Thank You, Ray! Best regards, T.
Ray, I love your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I need to add that I think you will see this one show back up within a few months. I had a similar issue with my 2000 Taco last year, it wouldn't release my key until I cycled the selector multiple times and positioned it just right. During the video +/-30sec mark, when you cycled the selector, I saw that the selector lever is loose/wobbly. There are 8? plastic flanged bushings inside the selector that require replacement (i believe the part no. is Toyota 90387-06065 Collar
1974-2004 Toyota 9038706065). You can probably get away with changing 4 but during the swap-out mine disintegrated. I hope I'm wrong about seeing this one show up again at your place but I want to share my experience.
Greetings. New Subscriber. I am not a mechanic, I don't plan on becoming a mechanic, but I love problem solving, and the way you take systematic approaches to finding solutions interests me. As a bonus, if I ever need to take my cars to my own mechanic I will be better equipped to explain problems for them to fix. Keep up the good work.
The 2 key system. Just like most cars in the 70's and 80's, one for the ignition that were squared and one for the doors and trunk that were round. Great video!!
I had to replace the ignition cylinder in my 2002 Chevy Malibu a few months ago..I bought it brand new off eBay for $27 vs $160 at Autozone..
I live in California and I enjoy your videos as well
Good work ray. Love ur vids. Makes me wanna get a hobby car to work on
I had a 99 Aurora and that thing had 2 different keys from the factory. Never really used it since it had a remote but still
im surprised the customer didn't go with the cheapest option and you give them a screw driver and theres the key lol
A dealership for that brand of car can sell you a new ignition switch and new keys after getting the key code from the VIN number, negating the need for two different keys (ignition and 2nd key for doors and trunk). Had it done on a Chevy Malibu that I bought used years ago. Person has to prove they own the car (registration or title).
Nothing wrong with 2 keys. I have one for ignition and one for the boot lid. Trouble was they were both black and looked the same. Solution:- bottle of the wife’s nail varnish 😃👍. Now boot lid key has bright red fob. Job done click. You have a nice day👍
rust -eze… its the rear end formula. when you like a little ass play.
Changed the key and tumbler but never mentioned electrical wires and connections. I only see one tab on the unit and Ray never mentioned it or connected to it. What gives? TIA
Hope you feel better soon buddy.
That’s set up almost like my 05 tundra. Good job taking care of the panels
If I was the customer, having two sets of keys would be annoying, and I would probably opt for the extra cost to have 2 new keys made.
Toyota…needs new tumbler
Mercedes…needs new tumbler , half the drive train , computer modules and a team of techno dudes.
Face facts Ray, you're just not depressing enough
Here’s the scoop. If you go to a locksmith they will be able to code cut a new key. Meaning the new key will be cut to factory specs. Cheaper than a new ignition. We charge $10 to code cut a new key from the old key. I know this because I do it every day.
Gravy work on those vehicle
Factory keys are stronger metal than aftermarket keys. Always write down the key number, and save an original key in case duplicates need to be made later on.
The door locks on my 1988 Mazda truck could be opened by pretty much anything. I bought a set from RockAuto and installed those, and kept my ignition tumbler factory as is the fuel door lock. I thought having separate keys would bug me, but it hasn't, so I scrapped plan to get them all keyed alike.
I love your channel but As I own this truck with the very same issue. It’s not the key. There’s a bushing in the shifter. It’s the cause. Google sometimes is win.
Really? It was more expensive to have a key made? I had a similar issue on my older Toyota truck and I had to remove the passenger side door lock and take it to the dealership. Apparently, that has the key code on it so they made me a new original key for around $12
Tacoma…..there are 2 sets of two ribber bushings in the gear shifter that need to be replaced also.
I would rather change an engine than try to change anything in the dash. So fiddly and you have to lay under it.
I haven't seen a plain metal car key in over 25 years.
Keys have to be reprogrammed to the car after changing tumbler. Surprisingly this was not a problem on this car. Weird.
didnt hear you explaining its dangerous to be able to take out key while driving, because steering lock may kick in
why not just get new set all round?
oh god had a good laugh at the rear end formula lol
As someone from the Netherlands enjoying your content after one video popped up in recommended, I do wonder what's up with all the ding-ding noises the cars make.. is that a US only thing?
A good locksmith can take both keys an make 1 I've done it
I still think calling a locksmith would have been a better option OR ordering an unassembled KIT so that the door could still match.
well, poor customers. Having two keys like everyone else used to have before the whole "you only need one key to make you life easier" decision by the big three. Which was just before the whole "all you really need is a button".
You need a CPAP breathing machine ray else the snoring and sore throat will happen everyday. It works great. Get a sleep stufy at your doctor
If the customer has to they maybe able to have the door locks re-keyed.
Tapped the tappy tap there good Sir.
Watching this video makes me miss my old Tacoma RIP
Why do cars in USA do the ding ding sounds?
Thanks for taking the time out of your day to record and narrate all the helpful videos that you do. I've definitely benefited from the skills you have shared.
Recently, I was helping a friend with an issue similar to this with her 1998 Toyota Sienna. Not only was she having intermittent issues with the ignition cylinder sticking, but also with the door lock cylinders. I advised her to have the local Toyota dealer cut a new key using the key code (no trace cuts). About $15 later all was well.
I'm shocked that the local dealer cost for a key cut from the VIN code was more expensive than replacement of the ignition cylinder (parts and labor). I'd imagine that your shop likely charged around one hour for your time, plus parts.
Do you have any concerns with the old and worn key to continue being used in the door locks? Seems likely problems will occur at some point.
Being former GM.SAAB and independent mechanic here in Sweden, I have a hard time to understand how You are employed, as You obviously have to provide your own tools and other equipment?
Is that normal in the US ?
If you take it to a locksmith they can redo the door locks to the new key with out to much issue
had similar problem on a Hyundai iMax with about 90,000kms i used as a hire car on a holiday bout 7-8yrs ago key wouldn't remove rang apex the hire company n they sent out rcaa tech to fix n they couldnt fix even though i knew what problem was covered me for leaving key in ignition n told me to leave window down for the night and return car in the morning and gave me a near new hire car with less that 2,000kms on the clock the difference in the 2 cars was amazing worked out good as got a near new car and seen what these Hyundai iMax were like after 90k off abuse so i never got a new one as was thinking off buying one as the family people mover anyone with 4 kids knows the abuse cars get ended up getting another 80 series landcruiser 1990 model 3fe on lpg and petrol the 80 series has taken yrs off abuse its mostly used for offroad and camping and footy training and games over 425,000kms on the clock the 3fe 80 not as good as the turbo diesel i had in the 1997 i have but she takes a good beating off-road and still keeps ticking the only problem im having now is the lpg mileage has gone from 300km a tank to about 120km a tank would be great if rainman ray ever gets a lpg powered car in for diagnostics
You stay safe!
I have an Isuzu rodeo of the 1995.5 model year variety that exhibits the same issues sometimes. Not that the ignition necessarily gets stuck in the on/run position, but that the key is so worn that Sometimes it’s hard to turn on. It seems to exhibit the issue more on a cold day. I have tried to find some replacement keys to have cut, but I don’t know if the blade is different on the replacement key the locksmith cut for me, but it does not even fit properly in the ignition Tumblr or the door locks for that matter. Every time I go in and ask for parts or something for my Isuzu rodeo I always get strange looks. Am I weird for wanting to keep it going?
this is the real deal he is a master mechanic
Medicated?? Just whose rear end is that used on? Taking the dash apart, reminded me of too many uncomfortable times upside down, head on floor, feet over seat back, taking out a well buried headlight switch
Thank You, Ray!
Best regards,
T.
Am i weird for being most curious about the extra bizarro wiring harness bits and the odd gash on the panel below the ignition?
Ray, I love your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I need to add that I think you will see this one show back up within a few months. I had a similar issue with my 2000 Taco last year, it wouldn't release my key until I cycled the selector multiple times and positioned it just right. During the video +/-30sec mark, when you cycled the selector, I saw that the selector lever is loose/wobbly. There are 8? plastic flanged bushings inside the selector that require replacement (i believe the part no. is Toyota 90387-06065 Collar
1974-2004 Toyota 9038706065). You can probably get away with changing 4 but during the swap-out mine disintegrated. I hope I'm wrong about seeing this one show up again at your place but I want to share my experience.
Greetings. New Subscriber. I am not a mechanic, I don't plan on becoming a mechanic, but I love problem solving, and the way you take systematic approaches to finding solutions interests me. As a bonus, if I ever need to take my cars to my own mechanic I will be better equipped to explain problems for them to fix. Keep up the good work.
Thumbs up👍👍👍 just for the outro with a soar throat.