In a previous video we remove the radiator from this customers '18 Chrysler 300 and found out the aftermarket radiator needs some mods to make it work like the OEM. Let's get this baby back together and out the door!
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This is the piece that was on the bottom of the radiator. Uh, the sucky part about aftermarket radiators is the oh freaking fry frig holes. So the thing that holds this on are little standouts in the aluminium on the OEM radiator. so you can stick it on here all day long and that's it.
It's not going to stay because aftermarket stuff is junk junk junk junk. Freaking Nappa Freaking aftermarket radiators. There's a reason the OEM radiator is $700 and this one's $200 This is the reason cuz none of the plastic stuff's going to fit back on. I Mean it fits.
It's just not going to stay. Really awesome. Great job! NAA So let's try this. Let's mark where these little guys go.
just kind of hold it there in the middle. It's so frustrating using aftermarket stuff, but this young lady really couldn't afford a OEM radiator. So this is the route we're going. Here's some of the problems you run into: Modify: Don't tell the snap on guy we're going to use our flush Cuts We were going to use some side Cutters This is the aluminium.
It should cut very smooth. We're going to go kind of in the middle of those holes. put Little Nick there P Little Nick right there. We'll just warranty the Flush Cutters out with the snap I Gu Tell we don't know what happened I don't know what happened.
Yep, when all else fails, play dumb. That got me through most of my life. Let's see, these holes are directly across from one another, so we can do the exact same thing on the opposite side of the radiator there. Now that that's done, we should be able to grab them very gently and pry little tabs up.
That's all we had to do is make these little notches so we could pull little tabs up there. Push the little ones down right here, make make sure you cut through all the way. It's not going to affect the radiator at all, so you're down there slamming away on the keyboard. don't? Okay, there's that Now, technically I'm hoping while we right in the world, we'll get this thing to click on here.
We'll be able to bend these tabs up a little bit if we cut them far enough. Just it just got to hold this thing on until we get it in the car and then it will hit the lower radiator support and that should be good. I'm going to get a little pair of pliers, bend them up, and then get this to stick on a little better. Let's try this.
Hook them out the bottom. I've got them standing up pretty tall right now there. they're all poking through and now it's on there. We're going to have to do the same thing to the top, but it just kind of sucks when you have to do that, you know? But all we did like I say is Notch them out so the little guys stick through there and that's that.
So let's uh, set this here. let's find the top piece and do the same thing to the top. It's bad enough. the freaking radiator was all beat up in the box so we'll take and Mark this side like I say we're just going to do the same same thing.
we just want to mark them so we know where they're at I won't show you this process all right, we know where they're at I'm going to notch them out, bend them out that way we at least do a good job re remove. let's go ahead and slip her in. Now we've got all the plastic bits on it. Yeah, aftermarket radiator is sure are they're really hit or miss. I've used every brand out there. they're all junk. If it's a very complicated radiator job to do, uh, I won't give the customer a choice. it's you know, OEM or nothing like if you're working on them them little junk Chevy Sonics or whatever they are, you know where it's like a 4our job.
you got to pull the air charge, cooler and condenser and that whole deal and everything all clicks together like I say those ones I Don't give the customer the option, it's just you know OEM or nothing. this one. you know. a job like this where it's pretty easy to put a radiator in and you know there's some Financial concerns.
We'll go, we'll go aftermarket, but I'm going to push this back through there. we go get that plastic thing back where it was. We'll hook our lower hose back up. It's not just nap them, It's not like they don't make the radiators, it's just whatever Chinese company they buy them from.
If you really want to humor yourself, call the tech support and say they you know won't fit the plastic pieces, won't go back on. And I guarantee you when you talk to the guy, you're going to be the first person that ever had that complaint and they don't understand. You must have the wrong application, blah blah blah I can tell you almost word for word what they'll say. Maybe we'll call them just to humor ourselves.
That's always comical. Before we get super deep, let's make sure our fans are going to fit cuz we don't want to put the whole front end together and then find out the fans don't Fitz That's no fun. That hole lines up. oops and this hole, well almost lines up.
What a freaking joke. What a joke. A bad joke. Get this rubber up on top of our fan.
Let me just make sure the Fan's sitting down in the saddle here all the way and it is. Hey Luna hi Kitty how are you what you me kitty kitty. You want to go see mommy? Come on yeah, come here you good girl. On withy mommy.
Having a shop Kitty makes you stop from wanting to murder people which is helpful. They calm you down a little bit. We get a different size. you got to be careful cuz see, with these coarse screws, you're cutting new threads in that radiator so you just got to make sure she's lined up.
Run her home. you know. Just make sure it's straight is all you can do. And before we forget, we'll plug that in.
We'll clip that on. We'll take this off, throw it in the bucket of of little dongers there you got who a idiot make a mess H Your hose up. Gosh dang it. Put our clamps back on I put them right back where they were that way.
nobody can tell you's even here there, it's all lined up. Let me clean up my mess and we'll go down on this old girl. The next question worth one million dollars is they fit some of the stuff we should have checked prior to installing. Oh like a glove. leave that one loose I'm going go do the other side because one thing I want to make sure is that in the radiator support down there that we're in all the way with that rubber and we are going hold the little pressure down on it. Oh, almost pinched my thumb. One clicky clack is the torque spec. one clicky clap.
We'll uh, not put these in yet because we need to put our AC condenser back on there. Can't quite finish the job of the showy. We switch to the Deep one here. just needs the final torque.
but there it is. that's final torque. Now these are your course screws, so be careful. there's that one.
Get the top one. There's that one. Now we can put the plastic Clips back in it. It's got a little alignment Peg on the bottom, line that up in the lower support, put your clip there, clip up there, lineing up in the lower support.
Could imagine being a body guy using all aftermarket crap aftermarket body parts radiators. AC condensers. It's got to be a disaster. Clip your horn wir and harness back in You' have to have a lot of Bondo If I was a body guy just like Lego that was easy.
Yep. cars are all plastic nowaday. Ironically enough, they're a lot safer than they were back when they're on metal, you know what I mean. So I'm going to go through and put all these clips back in all 10 of them.
Slip that back in, lines up perfectly. Get that little guy recola. You pretty much have to do that every time at that. Let's go get some silicone grease.
Oh too much. stick a little bit of that in the hole there. now. it pops together smooth.
I Need something different than the uggie doy? We don't want to go too much. Feel right? click click. What is that? We'll lubricate our nipple tops right here. That way, our little plastic Shield pops on nice nipple top that's a name of a mountain you know in the Prny in the It On De region.
if you're a 46er, if you're a 46er, you've climbed old nipple top. I Don't know if it's in the Dicks Mountain range. They got all kinds of great names up there Google it If you don't believe me, this is always a 46er. It's the only reason I know it's a big mountain climber.
just like a little kit. This is little. Had three kids and me. I'm going to plug our lights in I've already put the bolts back in the bumper cover.
The two bolts that hold the bumper cover on there. That one's plugged in these two bolts right here, one on each side. We'll slip this little wayy in there that's all lined up that's all lined up. That'll kind of hold it for us.
just drop it there. I Got to hold this. We'll get all the screws lined up. there's the one I dropped and then get this thing all buttoned up. There's that. We got to pop some plastic jiggly bits here in the sides. Put these scen in the bottom. They're different than the ones that go on the top or around the other side.
If you made that observation when you were tearing it apart, you'll know. and we've only got four or five other ones here. We'll stick them in now. We just need to fill it up.
It takes the Mopar the 10 years here. the 50/50 I Hope I Got enough around the shop I Just ordered a new case cuz I didn't realize how low we were getting. Well, now that that's full, we're going to crack the bleeder loose here on top of the thermostat housing, let the air out and then the level in here should drop there. Now it's peeing out straight Co It's perfect engineering so it dribbles right on the Belt that maybe is up above the cold Mark But we're going to start it up and there.
that's probably going to drop down a little bit here. I'm sure there's still a little bit of air in it. We're pretty well done folks. Co Levels good I Gave it a little peek I Didn't see any leaks.
the fan cycled once the train's coming through town. We got good heat. As you can tell, temp gauge is all the way up where it should be I Think this lady's going to be happy. There's a look at the old radiator.
you can see the snail Trails on it from where it was leaking before. So she was going to try to wait till December when she could afford to do it. but uh I had her stopping in. you know, once a week the coolant and it was going through so much I Told you can't wait, you can't wait any longer lady I'll frun you some money so you can get it done and uh, that way therez I thought it' be kind of silly to blow off the car over a you know, stupid leaky radiator.
so that's it folks. we'll leave it at that. um you see the you know the wo of installing a used or not a used an aftermarket radiator. Um and like I say it's not just Napa just happens to be where we bought it from.
uh but it's something silly you know I mean that's is all all it is is just these little these little tabs you know and it's essentially what we did is just cut it and add those in there. but you know I mean other than that, it fit fit pretty well. it's just some of the stuff gets really frustrating. like I say something like this where it's easy to put a radiator in.
It's not that big a deal, but if you have one that's a you know four five 6 hour job OEM only you know if the OEM one's crap and only lasted. what is this car 18 So you got 5-year-old car oem's junk. you know how much worse is the aftermarket? Who knows I don't know but what I do know is I want to see your comment in that comment section questions Comments: the insty the Facebook you guys know what to do. Just remember viewers, if I can do it, you can do it.
Thanks for watching.
In my mechanic training you were supposed to belch through the in intake hose before installing!!
I learned the hard way about aftermarket radiators when I did a 2003 BMW 530i, the oem rad was 160 the cheapo was like 70, it was not worth the savings, the aftermarket one was a nightmare to install.
I'm slammin' on the keyboard cause that was an excellent solution to the problem! Nice job!
Funny you mention OEM. I have a Kia. I discovered a leaking caliper . Replaced it with a NAPA . Year later bloody thing leaked. NAPA wanted the difference between the original price and the `new' price. I lost the plot. Thing is, following Mr. O, I am not alone.
They gotcha' by the balls!
Trust any mechanic that talks to a cat the way you do:)
Amazes me how Eric can remember how stuff goes back so well.
What happened to removing 2 hoses, couple of radiator brackets and you swap 'em out😢😢😢
I think I would have just thrown in a couple of drywall screws😂😂😂
What do you mean "play" dumb. I AM dumb😱😱
I thought that "hissing" noise towards the end was the "off breed" radiator leaking all ready. Knew I was wrong, because it was then that you added antifreeze
We need Luna merch.
All these radiators today are thinner than pop cans, great work as allways
Always put oem under the hood, every where else doesn't matter
Good job, Eric. Had to stop and show my wife how you talk to your cat.
My shop has a problem Jeep XJ with a transmission refit and minor issues to finish. So as to complete it takes a delay to free the bay. Feeling frustrated, I was watching this post with plastic and just then, it got to the part where a customer in fact got needed repair. So, I am thinking about the season and how great it is to see an owner tech understanding a bit as to meet cost. And where, I really, really like what happened. Sort of made my day, and reminds me to think about people and why, customers would repeat business.
Below freeze here in Washington state as 21F so there will be lots of shop need as overlooked battery, antifreeze, lights and window regulators. And lots of crashing on ice as it turns to freezing rain and compact snow. But not as heavy salt like NY. The stuff of sub frame rot and rust as would consume all. I am warned as to cheap parts that can fail quickly.
My personal regards. M.
I’m surprised you don’t use a vacuum fill. Changed my life when I bought one
Not only do we body guys deal with aftermarket parts daily we do it for half the money thanks to Insurance lobbiests keeping our labor rate at $42.00 an hr. And that is including our raise for covid.
All in all Eric, that radiator wasn't too bad to put in. At 50% of the time, Chinese-built stuff is off in specs because of English interpretation to Chinese and Metric to American measurements!
Flush cutter? You mean side dykes?
And this was an "easy" one…? 😳😕
Service cat 😊
Great video and thanks for sharing 👍
Cool Job..
Yep, aftermarket radiators are junk. I've replaced the one in my 92 Cavalier probably 3 or 4 times since 2006 because they end up leaking. They also don't fit down on the rubber bracket on one side at the bottom.
I saw the sensor in the intake hose disconnected did you connect it
Is a clickety clack the metric unit conversion for an ugga dugga?
glue that part to the radiator using silicon and move on. that radiator bottom piece only needs to stay in place until you install it. a temporary hold.
I saw the signs for Nippletop and Dix Mountain when I was on 87 headed from Albany to Plattsburgh. There are some weird names there. I also never found out why Adirondack Chairs are so damn expensive.
Do you worry about Luna in the shop with open antifreeze?
Eric what brand is ur hose clamp pliers they look like they're vise grips pliers
I’d love your thoughts on aftermarket cats lol, every single one of them is absolute junk, they never ever ever fit correctly by a country mile, you can never put the heat shields back on, you end up having to heat and bend shit to get the flanges to line up correctly. And if you’re lucky it’ll make it a week before it comes back with a cat code lol. Our shop no longer offers aftermarket cats unless the dealer is not available, it simply isn’t worth the headache. Idk if it’s the tolerances or what but these newer cars just will not accept an aftermarket cat without throwing a code again
Don’t worry Eric we all misuse our tools and then have the truck warranty them out, just so long as all of us keep it a secret the tool truck guys will never be the wiser 😉
Nice Work
What do you think of Aluminum or Stainless Magnetic Oil Drain Plugs? Thanks
I bet you’d like to take a hammer to some of those aftermarket parts! Like the Brooks brass hammer and just demolish it! I’d give some money for a replacement for you!
Eric to quote you from a way older video; You didn't build it. You didn't buy it and you didn't break it. You just fix them and fix them well you do regardless what crap parts are provided.
I wonder how many other cars that radiator sort of fits but not really?
I wonder how many hours that job is.
It pretty much doesn't matter where or from whom you buy aftermarket rads, heater cores or condensers from nowdays, they never quite fit right outta the box. Like you, I've come to expect that, as crappy as that sounds. I try to get the 1s with as much supplied hardware as possible because in my experience, pretty much none of the OE stuff wants to play nice. I went through 3 rads on a '10 Aveo before I found 1 that got close enough to bolt in. As you said, tech support was a not so funny joke..Very good of you to put the customer on a payment plan. Try that at a dealer!
Love nipple mountain
Hi, my daughters and I would like to see more videos of your interaction with the shop cat. Please consider making some YouTube "shorts".
I hope the shop kitty stays away from the spilled coolant.
That was a great showing of how easy it is to replace a radiator. Thanks for showing us how to do it.
too late to play dumb now, you have outed yourself as a smart dude with all these videos.
Nice job. Its like everything else. Go after market is mostly fine for the DIYer where a couple of extra hours is no biggie, but in a shop where time is (serious) money then that two hours has to be paid for and I'm sure it often ends up being about the same price at the end of the day.
You are so dumb " Having a shop kitty make you stop from wanting to murder people"… rolling on the floor… hehehehehe
Eric, i used to sell aftermarket and OEM Radiators, they are made at the same place or same factory, the differences are mainly the internal fins used to cool the transmission, OEM normally have good quality rubber seals and also stainless steel cooling fins inside the radiator for auto trans cooling and also the seals used for the plastic side tanks are good quality on OEM, plus the aluminum is also controlled, but aftermarket is a lucky dip really, all depends on the person on the line who is putting them together, its basically same person for oem, just different rubber seals and quality control is the main difference, i hope this helps?
Also with a large market such as the usa, then you guys have so many aftermarket brands for almost everything, also aftermarket dealers who sell OEM parts, where as some countries depending on the brand, you have to go to a OEM dealer to by products, like HOLDEN GMH / FORD Australia as a example. 🦘🦘👌👌✌✌👍👍
Proof there is still good in people. 🙏
Very nice! You are a good man!
Are the negative things people say in this comment section bothersome?
Those ole metal cars are safer with all them plastic cars now. Plus them ole metal cars fair better for car and driver on deer hits.
It takes a Real MAN to always go the extra mile!!!
Nice design Chrysler. The first step to changing the radiator is removing the wheels. Must be the same guy that thought a wheelwell was a good place to put a battery.
Let us all give thanks for shop kitty!
Eric, where are all these negative comments you talk about? Am I just not scrolling far enough to get to the opinionated viewers?
At one point in time, I thought it might be possible that I had such bad luck that I was the only one receiving defective products. The internet changed that because you can often find many who encountered the same problems.
Apparently the outsourced manufacturer thinks it's cheaper for them to have you do that than the 10 year old kid in PRC
I got a question.
Do other people in your shop ever think you are talking to yourself?
You know the funny thing is that everyone talks to pets like they talk to little babies, lol 🤣🤣🦘🦘👌👌✌✌👍👍
G’day Eric with any screws going into plastic I turn them in reverse until they click into the existing cut threads.
Regards Bill
I had to turn it off because it reminded me of working in a body shop
Anyone ever tell you that you sometimes sound like the guy from the red green show?
Legend has it Shop Kitty was actually a white cat but over the years she’s got a lil grease on ‘er 😂
I had a 2003 Volkswagen Beetle I bought aftermarket radiator what a piece of crap
Thanks! For the ice cream fund !
Excellent job and service to your client base in town. – You always go pretty much above the min..to achieve the max in service meeting customers needs. My hats of to you Eric. What more can one say…..
Sorry, shop kitty line is the funniest thing ever!!! Almost spit my drink all over my laptop!!
I like it that you're using a magnetic dish to hold plastic clips. Any day now Snap On will come up with a static electric dish to hold plastic clips for $$$$
All the best nuts come from uranus!!
You are going to lube WHAT??
At least you put all the fasteners back in, some places don't!!
There is a reason I watch your channel….you are entertaining…..but you give a sh!t! If you could fix rust……you would own NY!! Have a great weekend!
I have a gmc with a rad that began seeping at the lower crimping on drivers side. I checked the crimping on each crimp and found them to be as much as ..020 in. Or more difference between thickness of crimps on sides and bottom thats on a oem rad 2016 with 30,000 miles on vehicle. I was able to re crimp them with vise grips .020 more than the the narrowest ones and in the process of pressure testing the rad for a spare rad. Very sloppy factory job that could ruin a very expensive engine
My luck the rad would leak and I have to send it back and they wouldn't warranty it because I modified It
Unless the Snap-On Guy is watching!!📸
Nearly everything we buy nowadays is cheap cramp. And if some assembly is required you're in deep Mr Hanky. Recently replaced coils and one of 4 was dead new in the box.
I had my issues with a Chinesium radiator on a Subaru I got from O'Reilly. The trans line fittings were 90's and stuck out too far and hung up on the body inside the bay. NAPA actually saved me after we open4ed 3 other boxes and found one where the fittings were like OEM and would fit. What a load of hoo-haw – do the Chines not have rulers? Well, I know they have a Ruler but I'm talking measuring devices.
Manufacture watches video. Adds notches for rubber juggle bits!
I'm all about saving money. Thank you Eric and a great job 👍
Do you imagine anyone at Stellantis has caught on to the fact that their coolant has a service life which is double that of their radiators? DIYers should stick with dollar store green in your Mopar and save some money. Chinese coolant works best in Chinese radiators.
You keep this up, people are going to think that you know what you're doing 😂. You're not only a great mechanic, but you're a great guy.
If you can do it . . . no, I can't do it but I love watching you do it. You're the best I've ever seen. Carry on!!
Wow Eric O. truly is an honest amazing mechanic! Most other mechanics would have you buy oem parts just to make extra profit.. Love the channel btw, keep up the great work!
Im guessing copyright issues affect price.
I had an aftermarket radiator shop back in 08 and our stuff was pretty good hardly any complaints because the manufacturers we used also made OE, but NAPA refused to buy from us and would not say where they got theirs. So I can only imagine how bad they were if they were getting them cheaper than dirt.
Aftermarket usually get anywhere from 6 months to a year and a half in my experience and most don't leak like a slow dribble , they fail in dramatic fashion.
Andy has a little radiator tab..
Aftermarket stuff is Junk but you’re Installing it on a Junk (Chrysler) Product so Good Move. 🤪👎
I would suggest using a few dabs of RTV sealant to hold the plastic in place vs. cutting the radiator.
It would be faster, might hold better and if there's a failure you didn't "void the warrantee" by "modifying" the unit.
It reminds me of my favorite ditty I sing when I get that ill fitting aftermarket stuff that need additional engineering "it goes like this you're an ass hole a number one certified "A" grade asshole.Cheers Mr O.
Nice job. I hate all the plastic covers everywhere. I the hot South, those clips just snap when you touch them. But on the bright side, no rust unless the car is 50 years old and has been sitting out in the rain. Window seals leak and they fill like bathtubs! Rust from the inside out!!
Oh, you weren't at the NAPA Board meeting when they talked about this, it went something like this: "That plastic bit will just end up in the trash, so don't bother putting the right tabs and notches on the radiator for it to fit."
So Mopar makes 10 year coolant but only 5 year radiators?
Nice job, Eric!
One small suggestion: while the radiator was out, it would have been a good opportunity to clean the AC condenser. From the video it looked really clogged with dirt. I’m thinking a hose, from the engine compartment, to “push” the dirt out. I’ve seen plenty of cars with non-functioning AC because of a really dirty condenser.
Just an idea…😊
Just another example of why Eric stands above. Every mechanic I've ever worked with would have glued the rubber mounts onto the radiator witrh weatherstrip adhesive which would have ruined them them if you everr needed to do the the job again. And with parts shortages and warehouse stirikes if might be impossible to replace them other than a probablly doomed trip to the junkyard to find usable ones . He, as always, takes the time to do it right, gives the customer a proper repair and saves her a considerable of money. Not many lefct like him.
use 3m double sided tape
The biggest problem I have with radiators is that most of the vehicles I work on are old enough that O.E.M. parts have long since been discontinued. That pretty much forces me to the aftermarket!
I agree 100% with you on the shop kitty thing! My shop is only part time but, I still have "those days". When I walk into my "office", good ol Elmer, my black n white Tabby, is always ready to provide some comic relief and immediately improve my mood. He's also a big fan of Luna!
At least OEM will fit… usually……which is less of a headache for the mechanic…. that Reminds me, should flush and fill my Challengers Coolant in the Spring…good ol 392 Hemi..
Cats raise my blood pressure.
Snap-on guy watching this video: My life is a lie.
For a bit I was afraid the service bulletin was going to require poor Eric to pull the freakin driveshaft. The joys of owning 21st century designed automobiles😂