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50 thoughts on “Diluted gasoline! ethanol mixture killing fuel economy! same volume less energy”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars sonofsarek says:

    Is it just me, or do Fords get more battery corrosion than they should?

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars GAMEOV3R says:

    The 6.2L also are real bad for the plug wires arcing out.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mario Cachia says:

    Who’s the daddy of battery maintenance !

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Hola! Gor Bash says:

    Ahhh the fail to start, I've had that happen with my 150 before when I was doing some electrical work. Since it's now a purely computer and electronic sensor controlled system and not a mechanical on/off one, I think whats happening is that the flag in the computer for "I am in park or neutral" to permit it to start gets wiped when you wipe the codes, or sometimes when you are fiddling with plugging things back in, and some idiot made that flag only trip when putting it INTO park or neutral, not be an active check of what position the shifter is in when it comes online, so you have to go out and back in to park or neutral for the "start position ok" flag to tick on again. Thankfully newer models have changed to being a current state check and not a last input check.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mark Allen says:

    Ethanol is a renewable resource, oil will run out eventually.
    In Australia ethanol is made from the waste leftovers of sugar crops, nothing is grown just to produce fuel.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars etainne2001 says:

    It's all about the Pickles

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Dodi Jamian says:

    if you gonna rinse the battery with water anyway, you can just use hot water for the corrosion. it works very well and cheap. It rinses off everything, i mean you dont have to scrap as much as you did in this video.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Austin Farley says:

    No pickles? What kind of insane people do you work with?

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Tom Nekuda says:

    After seeing the computer readout I am convinced that the fur-lined potty-warmer spark plug has gone to hell.

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Peter Kerr says:

    Why use chemicals to clean battery terminals? The best is to buj Baking Soda (BiCarbonate of Soda) put 1 tablespoon in 1 ltr warm water then pour over the terminals. INSTANT clean. Rinse with fresh water. Nothing better !!

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Sam Jackson says:

    ..

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Peter R says:

    Hot water dissolves that battery crud like magic

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Prjndigo says:

    Scotty Kilmer went over the "won't run/start" problem… bus probes should never be left plugged in to the vehicle when it is off and you screw around with connections.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars taj1460 says:

    Wow thats one big ass land yacht!

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Steve VanderGriend says:

    What does ethanol have to do with this problem? Seems you would at least question the fuel blend during troubleshooting.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ue Mackay says:

    I was always taught the order in which you disconnect (neg first) and reconnect the battery (pos first). You dont seem to give a dam so i assume its unimportant as you are the best mechanic I know🙃🇬🇧

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Know One says:

    put corn squeezins back in a likker bottle where it belongs………the eco whackos will have us ALL walkin pretty soon

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Willard Dunn says:

    NOCO stands for no corrosion

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars wrx3123 says:

    Ethenol is higher octane so more power

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Yamaha40 says:

    So I need u to do me a flavor and try something. Re battery clean. Disconnect cables, mix good old arm and hammer with water. just pour mixture all over use parts cleaning brush. Then wire wheel. . Pour water all over, blow off. Before doing anything use multimeter form one post and drag the other lead across battery to see voltage drop. After cleaning chk again. No chemicals, doin for years

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Phương Ma says:

    I never like engine with plastic intake or valves covers , it all Mercedes’ false Testing formula 1 with engine plastic everything 35 years ago , plus you dont deluded with water before you spray the battery , you be breathing acids powders and the rest of your buddy , plus fans circulating around the shop LOL !!!. Acids going to your lungs

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Simon D says:

    A few months back before gas stations were authorized to use E15 my vehicle, 19 Civic SI was in perfect running order. Over the last few months I started seeing misfire codes captured in my cars computer and when I cold start, as it idols down a slight studding @ 1400 rpm. Figured it was spark plugs and did them and the coils. The misfire continues to this day. Went to the Honda dealership and the mechanic there said that they have had several SI owners complaing about a similar issue. The computer system is not set up for E15 and although it will adjust it takes time and causes it to misfire.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 3 amigos says:

    Also, the percentage added to gasoline does not equal the mileage percentage lost. 10% of 22 mpg is 2.2. but I lose more like 4 mpg. Ethanol really sucks. Just like water. Gatorade is better.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars 3 amigos says:

    E15 or ECO 88, whatever they want to call it. Some gas stations actually just mix it in without saying, unless you can find the orange sticker that says E15 is 87 and 89. And if you want E10 you have to pay 91 prices. Most people probably don't know they're going to be hurting their fuel economy. Less BTUs means less mileage. I get pinging and detonation with E10 87. On straight 87 gasoline I don't. So they're not equal at all. The mileage lost for Flex fuel totally makes the fuel savings not worth it.

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars David Dankenbring says:

    Foot not on brake while trying to start

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Edward Henry says:

    It is a good thing that you do not work on BMW, because of the way you connected the battery, that fries modules.

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Markomyt1 says:

    Fords will also start shutting down Control Modules when voltages start getting low.
    I experienced that on the passenger door handle/lock of my 2018 F150. It would no longer passively lock/unlock.
    Dealer said I needed to pay $600 for a new painted door handle. I checked the battery voltage and charged the battery. Door handle worked fine after that. The battery was a little tired(4 years old) so I got the dealership to credit my $150 towards a new battery. These require a whole new level of troubleshooting.

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Alan Earnest says:

    You forgot to spray brake clean on it

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Make Europe European Again says:

    This is what amazes me with people that buy E10, the money they "save" on the price at the pump you lose in mpg's!!
    Ethanol contains 30% less energy and anyone that has built an E85 turbo engine knows that you need much bigger injectors, stronger fuel pump etc to make the same amont of power with E85 as with gasoline.

    For drinking however, good 'ol ethanol does the trick all the time! ✋🥴…..🤣🤣🤣

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Jorge Padilla says:

    I totally feel the difference and feel it so now I have to measure how much octane should I scientifically add to my tank

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars victor reinz says:

    Hey Ray?

    Just a quick thing, but you guys should have a shop vac for the stuff like the battery corrosion — spraying it around into the engine bay and your shop space seems like another problem waiting to surface?

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Big John says:

    Ethanol+humidity=trouble.

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars David Houlden says:

    Not to doubt the mileage results of the commenters here but the math doesn't make sense.
    With E85, you have 15% ethanol, if ethanol has 25% less energy than gasoline then you should loose 15 * 25 /100% or 3.75% of your mpg. I can't understand how anyone could get 20 – 30% worse mileage using E85.

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Maffeo says:

    Does disconnecting the battery without using one of those things in the computer port that keeps it charged screw up the idle???

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Michael Carr says:

    if still within warranty peeriod, why didnt customer take it to ford for warranty repair?

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mitch Hedberg says:

    Interesting note about "FLEXFUEL" engines.

    GM won a court case when an engine was damaged by 85 ethanol fuel in a flexfuel car. GM argued that the car can run E85 now and then, but not all the time without damage. The conservative judge agreed.

    Flexfuel engines will die if run on E85 all the time!

  37. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars GusMortis says:

    Can you find non ethanol gasoline that isn't premium anymore?

  38. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Mike Hudick says:

    No one ever claimed that higher-ethanol fuel was the be-all and end-all of fuels, nor did any one ever claim that it is the right fuel for every vehicle.

  39. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Trace D says:

    Is it bad that could smell the corrosion dust when you cleaned the + cable end?

  40. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rj Right says:

    My guestimation on the No-start is that when cables were disconnected the positive contacted the body and cleared the BCM which had to relearn functions and perhaps transponder programming glitch for same. Some vehicle models you just don't want to let that happen but in this case it did seem very bizarre 🤔

  41. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Rob Sterenborg says:

    When your motor management can't figure out what kind of fuel you are using then yes you are burning more fuel than needed. This goes for all older cars. Modern cars can adjust a little but don't run an adaptation each time you fill up to adjust all the parameters. In general, one aspect is better performance but the engine runs at a higher temperature (similar to liquid petroleum gas ) that most engines don't like. To use ethanol as a substitute for MTBE is smart because MTBE is highly toxic. It is always a trade-off like better for the environment and higher usage but that depends mostly on how the car industry can and will adjust. With a large inventory of old cars, it can be questionable

  42. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars charles frogg says:

    Ita a bad practice to keep blowing acid contaminated battery build up over the car , it will eat into everything. A vacuum cleaner is a much better option.

  43. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Justin Sapp says:

    I'm glad I have quite a few gas stations near me that sell non ethnohal gasoline yes its more expensive but with non ethnohal gasoline my 06 charger with the 5.7 gets around 19-20 mpg city and with mid grade ethnohal gasoline I get around 15-18 city so yah I totally agree.

  44. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars roger sadler says:

    just take the Ethanol out of the gas

  45. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars JB says:

    The gov isnt stupid… it passed a law to enrich oil companies even more while the citizens suffer. The lied and told the people it was to help them… like always.

  46. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Travis Fox says:

    Ethanol. For corn growers, by corn growers. It ruins engines.