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Motor Repair
I've been requested to take over on this car. It's a 2017 hyundai. Hyundai. I think.
It's a sonata sport. Edition. Check engine. Light.
Is turned on's got a bunch of codes. Uh 455. Something about an evap system leak. And there's some other codes.
In there having to do with the intake manifold variable runner system. Some of these intakes have a like a vacuum or a solenoid actuated uh. Loud noises solenoid actuated like flapper valves inside of the intake. And those are dual uh manifold or dual runners on those intakes.
Where there are shorter ones and longer ones. Those are utilized for more torque or more higher up rpms and as the engine moves through its rpm range. The ecm decides if it wants short runners or long runners. And it will actuate those runners and change the length of the manifold tubes that being said this one appears to have a fault with its variable length intake runner system.
So we're going to move this over to my stall and go check it out. And it appears the ecm is already alerting me to an issue. We have a flashing check engine light that's telling us that it's got a current misfire. And it also currently has 67 879 miles on the odometer backing up the auto.
So now you guys are up to speed. You know what i know so uh let us go do some investigating to the scan tool. Let's see let's see right there's good powering down. Here.
Let's just pull this thing down. While i go fetch the scanner okay we need our obd2 port beginning communication protocol procedures now hey hyundai automatic id please wait satellites linking up in outer space beginning procedure now looks like we got a 24. Liter. Gdi.
Yes and engine codes please. Show. Me what has failed its check procedures. Now okay.
We've got a p0455 evap emission system leak detection detected. Largely p 2006 intake manifold runner control stuck closed bank. One so the bank one runner flappers are stuck in the closed position. According to the ecm.
We've got a p200a intake manifold runner performance bank. One that means. It's just not working and a p 1326 knock signal range slash performance now. I already heard some business about a gas cap not being here.
So let's uh. Let's just address this p0455 right now opening the fuel door and survey says. There is no fuel cap. So we need to put a fuel cap on that before i can do anything all right so like i said that flashing light is usually an indicator of a current misfire so i've backed out of that uh code menu and went into the misfire counts and i do not see any current misfires that are occurring with this car.
So i feel a little better about taking it out on a road test. So let us go do that right now before we actually get started the reason that i stopped to scan it before driving it is i just wanted to make sure. It was safe and operating the engine would not have caused any uh potential damage. It's unlikely but you don't want to put yourself in a position of liability or maybe. I should say i don't want to put myself into a position of liability. So my primary reason for this test drive is i just want to get a feel for how this thing runs and drives just to see if the engine is experiencing um. Any actual operational issues or if it's just giving us. These trouble codes for a failed uh failed system check.
So i was pulling out here yesterday and a guy that's stopped in this turning lane to let me out. But i had my truck and i can't make a single turn right hand right hand turn right here whoa whoa whoa whoa. The car doesn't go anywhere. It just fell on his face yep all right.
She's barely going anywhere. We're turning around it has no power and i'm also hearing like a high pitch noise coming from under the hood oh. It went away. Here.
Let's go. See what that was maybe just maybe you can hear it again. It was like a high pitched uh squeaking noise. Now not right now let's go drive it some more and see okay let's go uh try this again even though this thing's running like really slow and doesn't seem to have any power.
I'm just going to do my normal test drive route. I just don't want to dart out and try to make a left in traffic. So anyway as i was saying. I was trying to make a right in my truck and i could not uh.
I couldn't make a single lane right turn it i don't use turning lanes to get up to speed. Yeah. This thing's falling right on his face this is bad. I can't finish.
My story. Yep and it's telling me the hood is open oh okay. That high pitched noise was an alarm in here. It's telling me the hood's open.
But it's not cause i just closed. It and now it's done okay so to finish the story out it's probably boring now uh. A guy stopped in that turning lane to uh to let me out. But the traffic on his other side was just like flying by and he wouldn't go he was trying to get me to pull out and i wouldn't do it.
And he was getting mad at me. Because i wouldn't pull out in front of him. But i knew i couldn't pull out and make that turn in one lane. So it was it was just an odd traffic experience.
And i just wanted to share that with you i kind of got distracted with my story from this foot. Alarm noise. Thing. No power situation uh.
Yeah. Let's get out of here off the road. How did they even get this car here. And why no mention of this hood alarm.
This was not on my list of things they complained about okay back to safety let's uh. Let's get to work on this thing. Let's see what the deal is let's get to work on this thing. And see what the deal is right about there is probably good free.
Popping. Z hood wow. All right engine cover come off of there. We need to see what uh treasures.
Live beneath warm stay. Okay. Here's our intake. Manifold right.
Here air comes into the air filter runs down the tube down through the throttle body into the intake. And then up through these runners and into the portion of the cylinder head. This little actuator motor right here is probably what controls the variable flaps inside of this runner. It appears they're running in 10. And there's one length here and then another length on the other side and our system. That is faulty is this guy right here. And it's saying that it is stuck those now. I've just noticed this actuator over here.
It's also connected to some linkage uh. I may be mistaken and it might not be that unit there this could be the actuator for the runner system. I'm gonna go do a little bit of research. I'm gonna pull this up on all data and see what i cannot learn about what's going on here.
But if it is this actuator. I can verify that it's plugged in and same thing over here with this assembly. If this happens to be the actuator in question again. I can verify that it's at least plugged in and the wires are not damaged so uh that leads me to believe we actually may have a internal fault with the runner system on this perhaps.
They're all clogged up with oil or carbon. And that the actual flaps cannot move that is a possibility okay so i've got the scan tool out here. And i'm going to try to actuate that system just so i can see if one of these motors is trying to function. I'm just trying to identify.
Which one of these units is the one in question also while i'm here i'd like to make note that i'm gonna spray this out and clean it up there's a there's a micro switch in there. That's supposed to detect when this is in the locked position. And it appears as we saw from our test drive that it is not detecting and it thinks that the uh. The hood is open when it is actually not so i'm going to try to rectify that it's kind of a not the issue that we're here for it's really annoying and i would like to fix that anyway like i was saying here we are variable intake solenoid.
This is the only menu that's close that's might let me know which one of these units. It is before i've got to break into the all data and start to start learning about the system. And let's go ahead and start that it's going. It's telling me.
It's going oh there it went see that so it's moving that tells me that the ecm is able to actuate it it tells me that the connectors are good and the actuator is good so it's possible that the runners are broken off inside or the linkage is broken that thing does appear to be torquing up a little bit as it tries to move so uh. I i think our option here or our only option here is to remove this intake and go and inspect the internals for any actual kind of clogging before i do that i'm gonna go double check the diag tree real fast to make sure i'm not missing something and then we'll go from there okay. So i've pulled up the uh. The flow chart for that p200a code. It's basically verifying that the system is either functioning or not and it's telling you to either go to the ecm or go to the manifold or check the wiring out it's giving us a list of possible causes here vcma is stuck by carbon or foreign objects in the intake. So back to what we were saying the the intake runners are carboned up and stuck and not moving back connection at the harness uh. We already checked that and i took a look at the uh. The wiring harness and i don't see any defects and of course you got a vcm failure now.
According to our documents uh. This device right here is the vcm. I do not know why that was actuating when i commanded it perhaps i was just in the wrong feature but according to the codes. This is the unit that we should be focusing on and the flaps that are in question are inside so what i would think we should do is disconnect this unit.
If i can looks like it's one two three four volts perhaps disconnect it then try to actuate. It and see if the unit actually works uh once it's disconnected. I can actually probably get my hands on the lever or the mechanism that operates the valves and just verify that the valves are working or not that being said. I gotta go let people know um.
We need to get into a disassembly diagnostic at this point. There's nothing else i can do without actually taking things apart. So i've got to get approval for that so uh stay tuned. And i'll be right back.
Light powering down saving battery well dang this did not go as i planned. So uh. The deal is this is a two hour job to go ahead and pull this intake out and uh. We gave her worst case scenario.
Um. Now this car is here under the guise of they've got to have it back today so pulling this apart. Today really is not reasonable uh at this current point in time. So.
What we're gonna do here is uh basically put this thing back together. We have ordered the fuel cap because that's readily available and uh inexpensive they're like eight bucks. So we're gonna throw a fuel cap on there um. I am not going to clear out the trouble codes uh one or two reasons number one.
If somebody else gets a hold of this car before i see it again they're gonna need that information and number two. I don't want to create the illusion that the car is fixed. Because turning off the light can be received as oh no more light no more problem. And i don't want to set the situation up where it leaves here with the light off and then the light turns back on and and we just end up in one of those negative places.
So i'm going to leave the light on i'm going to leave all the code stored. We're going to put a gas cap on it and put the cover back on and uh in a way she goes and um. I do believe i will see this car again next week. So uh.
This is going to be continued later on when uh when this thing returns. Having said all that as always like to thank you for watching my video. I hope you enjoyed this video. If you did enjoy this video. You know the drill let me know about that in the comment section down below. So again and as always thank you for watching. And most importantly do not forget to have yourselves a great day. See you guys later okay time for a hail mary.
Let's see if we cannot get this switch to work with some electrical parts cleaner. I'm just going to send it blow it out and see what happens stinky that stuff really stinks did it work let's find out stop things the engine. I don't see the warning. I'll drive it to confirm.
But wow maybe that actually worked you know what i've got time let's go uh let's go spin through the parking. Lot real quick. We're still waiting on that gas cap. I recall earlier that warning didn't go off until.
We were riding a little bit so let's uh let's find out what the deal is here. Yeah. I can still smell that spray nicely hey. It still doesn't run it doesn't go go go go okay i fixed the warning.
Okay yeah. This thing totally just falls on its face. I'm giving it full throttle right now. And it just won't go it tried to go wouldn't do it all right now.
We are about to embark. Okay now we are about to embark on the highly technical procedure of installing the fuel tank containment cap.
Question: Do you ever check the vehicles for RECALLS before starting work?
Hyundai P1326 and flashing check engine light means do not drive the car. Shut it down have it towed in for service. It will be in "limp mode" to try to prevent further engine damage. There's a whole history of KIA and Hyundai recalls and complete engine replacements under warranty.
Personally, I would not even run the engine.
Nasty car hope that you are well. All those fingerprints yak
For a second I thought I heard 2013 and was like, NOPE, Nope out of it.
I want to see it
Like 10 years ago I worked on a line at Mann & Hummel that made intake manifolds for Toyota Camrys that were just like that with dual runners. They called that big air valve that changes between top or bottom runners an "afis" valve. That part was laser welded in, which made the whole manifold a single part.
New safety feature. Hood unlatched cause engine to run like crap. Was that a 2 tone steering wheel or just hamburger juice.
Did you ever look at the air filter? As nasty as the steering wheel was could the filter be completely clogged?
The actuator was obviously not jiving with the stepper. Yes this should have been fixed in a day. Get on your game bro.
What is all over that steering wheel?
There was a lot of fluid on the ground under the Kia. Wat was that from?
All that money to a Korean car Company.
New car..67,000 miles seriously broke.
For $16,000 dollars you could buy a Quality pre owned Toyota.
Last four times as long.
Just saying. Nitro Joe.
THANK YOU for showing the spray can label. We D-I-Y characters want to pick your "Knowledge bank".
Geese that Sterling wheel is in desperately need of cleaning.
great video Ray loved how you were explaining your though process during your diagnostic procedure and how you explain how the system is suppose to work. I love watching your channel to help me gain a better understand of systems and how to diagnose them. One day, I hope to have the knowledge you have and the efficiency you have in your diagnostics.
I would like you to no that you are my favorite wrench buddy and I love your stay positive attitude keep being you!
GDI… stands for God Damn It to anyone looking under it
Better brands with GDI also have port injection to help prevent carbonization clogging the intake system, thus preventing the expensive fix this junk needs.
Did you double check air filter. Make sure the air intake path is clear. Simple check
steering wheel has covid
I wouldn't be concrerned by an alam for the bonnet(hood) I would be more concerned with those things (Hyundai/Kia) motors catching fire whilst driving (BIG STORY HERE IN AUS).
Needs an engine
Verification of poorly designed unreliable vehicle. Even hood latch assembly has issues. Just another 10 cent a lb car once it leaves dealers lot. Many brands seem to be falling into the same salvage bin. Obviously neglected unit that's unlikely to return til it's inoperable.
That electrical parts cleaner will melt cheap plastic, its a nasty solvent.
Hyundai Kia; coffin on wheels.
How do you fit in the hierarchy of this place ?
I couldn't get past how DISGOSTENG that steering wheel is.
Ive seen everyone's explanation for the steering wheel being dirty. I know what that is for a fact, because i've seen it before. This car is owned by a woman who puts her makeup on in the car. That's foundation all over the wheel.
Blinking light is limp mode.
My buddy had a Nissan stanza that when you turned left it would honk uncontrollably. We had some good times in that car 🚗 😋
The classic Pass Off of a job. (Don't know what was your circumstance, but) I'm a plumber and when I get a pass off job it's normally a cluster F%$#. I just means you're the clutch guy, the one they know will get it solved. Good work brother 👏.
GDI equals carbon build up!
PEOPLE WHO STOP ON ONCOMMIMG TRAFFIC TO "BE NICE" AND LET PEOPLE PULL OUT SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO DRIVE…ITS ILLEGAL AND IT DANGEROUS AND STUPID
Is there any difference between the the CRC loco spray you use and the CRC Electrical Connection cleaner?
How is the customer going to drive an unsafe car that won't accelerate.
30 secs in, that car is f-ing gross
Another vehicle I wouldn’t climb into lacking a hazmat suit and N95… the steering wheel is enough! Thanks Ray 🤠👍
68k miles and a total pile. Unless this is a flood car, I don't think the Koreans have actually caught up to the Japanese yet.
I had to replace one of these manifolds at my shop about 2 months ago!! The intake was all gummed up with carbon! They had never had the intake system cleaned (it had 160,xxx miles on it). Replaced the intake and cleaned the intake system and car ran great afterwards!! But before it had zero power! Keep it up Ray! I don't know how you popped into my recommended about a year ago but I'm glad you did! I love watching you, Ford boss me, and Ford tech makuloco!!
This car looks like flood vehicle, plus all filters and fluids are factory original.
i see a lot of bugs in that car lol
Hey Ray. Is AllData paid for by your shop? It would be nice if my shop had more info instead of just diving into the unknown.
Quite a dirty steering wheel.
I wouldn’t touch it. They put that limp mode in for when knock sensor detects the engine is about to blow up. These engines are the worst.
There should be a code for that nasty steering wheel! I can't believe people buy that junk.
Lol. 67k and that car is junk. Meanwhile my Honda just won’t die at 170k
The steering wheel and inside looks more like 267,000 miles
that cars got BRONCHITIS
Everything else aside, wtf happened to that steering wheel? How does it get that worn after less than 70k miles?
It seems that this car belongs to a baker or someone who works with gypsum and never wash his hands!
Yeah, some people, with poor self-esteem, think they're doing somebody a favor by "letting them in"! Except that, to do that, they have to stand in moving traffic which is illegal because…hazardous! You can get somebody killed by being a "nice guy"…
If the customer wanted to press the issue, Anytime the CEL light pops on they can state it's "Emission" related and covered by federal warranty. Plenty of dealerships will try to deny things, but that warranty can be applied to a lot of CEL's
The Design and Defect warranty covers repair of emission control or emission related parts which fail to function or function improperly because of a defect in materials or workmanship during the vehicle's first 2 years/24,000 miles (8 years/80,000 miles for specified major components). The manufacturer can deny this warranty coverage if evidence shows that the emission component failure was caused by improper use or maintenance and not caused by a defect.
What is that nasty stuff on the steering wheel?
I don't know if I understood what the intake manifold does on these cars-it sounds like they are changing power by changing air and fuel flow tube length–quick story-about 50 yrs ago I built a b comp dragster[1400 lb 426 hemi powered gas dragster] hillborn fuel injected which has long intake tubes-i left them long because everyone told me I would never put out enough power to break the wide slicks loose and the car would bog down–long tube give more low end power–well coming off the line I lit the tires for 1/2 way down the track and my speed was only155 mph-at the time the record was 180mph–I cut the tube down to 12in from 18 inches and went 171 mph–it felt like someone flipped a switch mid track and the car took off like it was supercharged-and the slicks just hazed coming off the line–hemi heads and breathing –amazing.
All i can envision is that dreaded steering wheel.
I thought that all Kias and Hyundais have a 100,000-miles factory warranty? Didn't this car have only 67,000? Why didn't they just take it to the dealer for a free warranty repair??
I love when the phone rings and you start to follow it! Nice video Ray as always!
Goofy intake engineering…..all for a wee bit of mpg improvement and throttle response.
There`s you problem Ray, it`s a Hyundai.
Was the rest of the interior as disgusting as that steering wheel?
What a piece of crap
People need to wash their damn hands. How do you get so much human filth on the controls. It's gross.
But but but how does the Fuel Containment Cap get installed??? We will never know… 😱
What's the deal with that NASTY steering wheel?
What is going on with that steering wheel? Is that MOLD~?
Don't touch that steering wheel without gloves!
that steering wheel is gross
Never heard of intake runners.
Don't Hyundai's have a 10-year 100,000 mile warranty on the powertrain? Why wouldn't this dumb lady just take it to the dealership and get it fixed under warranty?
Doesn't the car owner know that a gas tank needs a gas gap…….
What in the name of Jesus is all over that steering wheel???
Hyundai: a Korean word for POS. I'll never own another one.
Flashing money light is generally a sign of impending doom… plus it's a Hyundai (which makes the light redundant)
Dude cars really peaked sometime around 1998-2010, after that they started to cram every possible stupid thing they could to them, making a sensible, reliable and comfortable piece of machinery into a pain in the ass to troubleshoot and fix nightmare.
I never trust other drivers. Once traffic was backed up for a mile and one waved me on and when I pulled out a truck in the turn lane was doing about 50mph took the front of my Nissan off. And I was charged for violating the right-of-way.
DUDE! THAT STEERING WHEEL!!
Would the absence of the fuel cap set off a bunch of wrong readouts?
Interesting programming when you say full throttle now and the car says nope.
That looks like a woman’s car, makeup all over the steering wheel ?
Usually the engines fail on these before anything else
Awesome vid,but I really wanted to see the condition of the inside of the intake manifold,great vid as always great commentary and videography, best wishes to you and all, from, Auckland, New Zealand, we really can't do anything on the modern cars without a scanner can we. Gone are the days of the coil and points and distributor cap.
Dam how hard is it to clean the steering wheel. Ray you need a shot after this
Car barely runs and doesn't get up to speed, so why does the lady want it back? It would be a public service to keep it off the road.
Like watching a movie and having the cable go out…….
So the P1326 is something that needs to be dealt with by the dealer. We installed software that detects bearing knock, it alarms you, flashes the engine light and cuts power in order to get to safety in case bearing failure has occurred. Sometimes it's a false alarm and needs to be repaired at the dealer under the original campaign free of charge
To the scan tool with batman sound
Touching the steering wheel in the raw!!!! @dandel351 biosuit for sure.
Holy smokes the owner has sandpaper for hands!
Nice video ray. As a kia tech the vehicle will almost guaranteed need a Vcm and the p1326 will need to be sent to the dealer due to having the knock sensor code. The dealer will perform a bearing clearance test and conclude either it will need an ecu update, knock sensor or new engine.
Whats up with the wheel got damn thats nasty 😱😱😱
You missed showing the cap installation lololol
Ray, I want to bring my Silverado to you. But I don't know where you are. I live in Seminole Florida. Can you email me your address? Or phone number of the shop?
Thanks in advance.
Hey… Let's get to work on this thing and see what the deal is. Lol
Uhh this is just like a 15 minute teaser. Can't wait to see what comes out of it.
Steering wheel looked like the owner drives with mud covered gloves on. LOL
That's also known as a "3 stage intake manifold"
That car is disgusting.
I assume you checked the air filter