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Hello everybody! Good day to you! Welcome back! Glad you guys are here! I know I'm super glad to be here. This is a 2011 Mazda RX8 I believe it has a rotary engine customer States loses throttle control while driving and I believe it has a check engine light. so let's hop on into this here vehicle and we're going to take it out for a quick spin. They drove it here so it stands to reason that I can drive it.
So we're going to take this for a quick spin and see what the dealio is with the our loss of throttle control beginning engine starting sequence. Now yeah, that definitely kind of sounds like a rotary. She's got 36,6 197 Mi on the odometer and my customer also stated that another shop told them that they need a PCM so let me, uh, get the seat adjusted. kind of breaking the rules and working on someone else's car.
you got to move the seat but uh I'm kind of tall and I don't fit and this thing's a little roller skate. kind of like a Miata it's like a it's updated Miata that's what we have here. All righty. So we have no check engine light, there is a cruise control light on, but I'm just going to go ahead and turn that off.
cancel off there we go so we have no lights on the dash. We'll check it for codes when we get back to the shop, but uh I'm going to take it out into the wild, up and over the bridge, give it some throttle decelerate and we're going to see if we get that check engine light code to come on and uh, perhaps the throttle will stop actuating uh while we are driving. So let's get to it. Oh yeah, definitely feels like a roller skate.
kind of bumpy is it's that sport suspension? All right little rotary engine. Show me what you got. Okay, we have throttle, we have horsepower, it's driving. It's quite a py little car.
Kind of fun to drive like I said updated Miata man I I missed it earlier I didn't have a camera on I I Came through this intersection and somebody pulled out to go and they pulled right out in front of like a A Corvette and a pickup truck and the Corvette ended up over here on the shoulder to go around the car that pulled out in front of them. So yeah, that was A. that was a grave error and judgment. So I guess today's driving lesson is don't pull out in front of people because it might make you get smashed into like this truck.
for example. I'm not going to drive out I could have fit in there I could have floored it. could have made it, but why risk your life for a couple extra seconds? It's just not worth it. Now here we go: I have space or off and when I pull out I Always check the mirror to make sure somebody didn't change lanes right behind behind me and that will make sure I don't get run into from uh from the backside.
Anyway, back to the task at hand. Driving lesson over: It's got good power, seems to run okay, so we don't have much to go off of regarding a uh, an iny yourface kind of symptom. So let's get back to the shop and I'll plug in the scan tool. We'll look for uh, latent Dtcs and then kind of go from there. This thing's kind of vibrate at idle. Feels like there's a bag of hammers in there, just kind of flinging around in a circle. Very solid feeling on the motor mounts. Yeah, look at the mirror vibrating I Don't know if that's a motor mount thing or if that's just a rotary thing or this could be part of our symptom.
This might be the throttle control issue. Not so certain here. Let's see what happens when I turn off climate control. Okay, yeah, the vibrations are still there so it's unaffected by the AC compressor.
Maybe a little bit of throttle here. I'll power break it some and the vibe went away. So yeah, it's probably just got collapsed motor mounts. I bet they're liquid filled.
green light you ran your Red Light Truck Yeah off idle Concrete in the road off idle. Yeah, it's very, very smooth. Imagine it's an engine mount situation. I'll take a look at those two while we're in there.
All righty back at the shop. First things First we're going to nose it in. grab the scanner, connect to it, start talking to the ECM and uh, we'll see what our computerizing has to say about this situation. Let's see: Cadillac's occupying a lift I Don't want to steal Dave's lift so we're just going to go over here and park it in the big lift.
for now should be good parking. the auto. we'll leave it running for the time being windows down. so I don't lock myself out.
That happens. It's a real thing. Close the doors with Windows up and then uh. the car automatically locks and then locks you out.
That's never good. Okay, scanner. derner Coming back in. Let's get this thing connected here.
Powering on. Beep! Okay, Little flashlight. Where is my data link connector? There it is. This flashlight turned out to be an invaluable little tool on the end of the scanner.
See what we got here? Okay, Computerize is communicating with the vehicle, satellites are linking up and outer space thinking please, wait, Okay, what do we have? 1.3 l rotary 2011 miles to RX8 that checks out California Emissions Oh I Don't work on this Yeah engine. Let's see here. Trouble Codes: What do we have? Show me memory codes Aor running Yes and yes. Self test initiated blah blah blah p2108 Tac Performance: Tac Module Performance: Throttle Actuator Control Module Performance: Okay H Well let's go over to Uh the computer Rizer.
We'll pull up all data and we're going to find out that code definition and uh and see what the Diag tree says about uh repairing this condition right here. All righty we are in all data. Got the 2011 RX8 pulled up 1.3 l, going to go to diagnostic trouble codes and we're looking for a P code. It's going to be 2108 so we're going to scroll it down to the 2000s and 2108.
There it is. Here is our diagnostic tree. Let's see what what we get: So Throttle Actuator Control Module Performance Error So the TAC has an error internal Communication error Diag Support: This is a continuous monitored. That means Pcm's always looking for feedback from the throttle controller. The Mill malfunction indicator lamp will illuminate when the PCM detects a malfunction and it stores the DTC in memory. Okay So I just checked Freeze Frame Data as per our Uh, our instructions here Freeze Frame Data is stored now I Know that the this code has been replaced once before because in my DTC list it says miles since DTC Clear and it's only been driven like 13 miles in the code reset. But going down through this Diag tree Step one: Verify the Freeze Frame data Uh has been recorded and it has has. so we did that.
That's a yes. Go to the next step so did record verify the related repair information Availability Uh verify related service bulletins and or uh, online repair information. Uh, there are no bulletins that are active against this. Is there any repair related information available? No.
Go to the next step. Verify Troubleshooting of 201108 Completed. That's the troubleshooting. Look for bulletins and make sure it's stored free.
Freeze Frame data. So uh, we verified troubleshooting of 21108. We cleared the codes that's already been done. Start the engine is DTC present.
Yes, that's already happened because these codes were just cleared 13 miles ago. So the action to take at this point is replace PCM and go to Next Step. So we need to replace the Uh the PCM Pretty cut and dry. Uh, there's almost no diagnostic work involved with this except in order to repair the PCM I need to get the part number off of the PCM because when I call the PCM Rebuilders SL re repair people, they're going to ask for the part number on the unit.
So let me get into this engine compartment here. We're going to dig that ECM out and get the part number. At that point, we can, uh, park the car after putting the ECM back so it's drivable. We'll park it and I'll call up the Rebuilders and see if they can rebuild it.
Where is this? ECM Okay, it's under all this plastic somewhere. All right. Well going. Have to start with the battery and the engine cover.
I Suppose look at that cute little rotary in there. Yeah, that's the front of it. that's the alternator and that means the whole engine is like here. Super tiny.
That's a cute little 1.3 l. See, here's our battery cover. What are we stuck on? There we go. That's the airbox so it's not in there I believe our UCM is right here and we've got one 10 mm Fastener kind of hanging onto that cover.
So here, let's uh, unbolt this Fastener here. nut. Unclick there she is. That's our computerize.
So what we're looking for here is the part number. That's what I need to get a hold of and I don't see it. Oh, that might be it. Right there.
There we go. Part number retrieval complete and it's looking like let's see what we get here. Uh, how about a 279 00- 6634? It could be Kilo 4238 12v. That's 12 volt. That's not what we're looking for. Could be an N3 R4 but that's not a part number. So it's either going to be the N3 R4 18881 mic or the 2797 00- 6634. that would be our part number.
Okay, well let me go call the uh the people back and we're going to see what we want to do here. You know, real quick. I think I'm going to disconnect this and look at the bottom side of it just to make sure that there's not a another hidden part number. Hold this wry out of the way and there's four Fasteners that Bolt the CCU down to.
it's a looks like a fuse block or something. Neutral drops on the quarter inch and that's a negative. Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Hot Little warm. No wonder it blew up this thing like lava scalding hot.
Okay, so there's no part numbers on the back, so it's got to be one of those. uh, one of these numbers here on the front. Pull this thing back down and then we'll go call the fellas at the Rebuilder place. Let's see if they can fix this and so I don't lose components I'll just put this bracket back where I found it as well cuz what I'm going to have to do is pull this apart, put it outside, or put the car outside, then pull it apart and then, uh, order the repaired or replacement unit.
That's kind of going to have to be the plan here. Okay, so I want to kind of do something a little fun and change directions. We're going to actually create a failure in this because I want to illustrate something or I kind of want to feed off of something that I saw uh, earlier on the internet I had found a video where people were talking about those headset things like the Apple people that are walking around with like they got this VR headset on their face and they're like running around touching the air. uh I guess that's supposed to emulate the screens that you can see inside of this virtual reality business.
And the video in question I'll play a clip for it for you of it in a moment. But the video uh, in question was a technician or some sort of individual who was working on their vehicle. and they had one of those headset things on. And that headset is supposed to revolutionize how we diagnose and repair cars.
So what? I'm going to do I'm going to try to just debunk this right about now. I'm going to create a failure in this vehicle. Okay, we've got a mass airflow sensor that's not all the way connected. See that right there.
I'm going to create codes I'm going to create a driveability problem and I'm going to create a failure and we're going to see if the headset is able to diagnose that particular concern. So let's restart this engine. It's probably going to give me a check engine light straight away. Yep, and it's going to give me some codes.
Okay, so we're going to go back into this: Mazda into the ECM and get out of Freeze Frame data Going to go to Codes menu memory codes searching for memory codes blah blah blah. Now I'm not hurting anything. but here's what we got: Tac Performance That's the one we we saw earlier. Uh Engine Air temperature control circuit or air temp circuit IAT and mass air flow circuit low input. So we got a P102 and a P1113. That's what we caed. Okay, so what I'm going to do is I'm going to pretend I'm the technician that's in that video and we're going to look up Mazda I can't spell mzda RX8 and that's going to be a p What code was that? How about a p0102? Okay, so we're going to put that in and oh, p0102 there we go. Mass Airflow Sensor code: This guy's talking about cleaning a mass airflow I Don't know who whose page this is.
it's just the first one I found. So now we're watching this video of this guy cleaning a mass airflow sensor. Now this is all in my little VR headset. Okay, so now what I can do is I can put that aside and then we'll open up another menu.
here. There we go. and I want to find? We'll just pull up some wiring diagrams that should, uh, that should help us out. So we're in the 21108 and we're going to go into some wiring diagrams.
We're going to copy exactly what we saw in that little video over there and we're just going to prove how this is not going to make technicians obsolete. So we're We're emulating all this cool stuff. So here we go. So now I've got I got my little screen with my YouTube video pulled up.
Then I got my other little screen over here with all my diagrams and pin out locations and all this cool stuff. But here's the thing. Uh, how does those screens over there, somebody's YouTube video and then a diagram have any idea that that thing's not plugged in all the way? Or furthermore, how does the VR system know that this pin hasn't wiggled its way loose or that a rat didn't come in here and chew at that wiring harness over there on the backside? See all that those little VR things are doing is giving you service, data, and information inside of your face rather than over there on your screen. So it can tell you where the wires from this are supposed to meet the ECM and where there's a junction connector somewhere between this ECM and this connector right here.
But all this technology and all this, uh, this. this VR is not going to change the fact that you need a skilled technician with the knowledge of how things fail in order to properly diagnose and repair that And sure you might be able to have the thing Bluetooth to the car with a little dongle or with some kind of module that they're going to make us have or it's have to going to have to be done over the Internet. Those VR things might be able to do such things, but what they're not going to be able to do is put your hands on it and know what you're talking about. Furthermore, I think that relying on that kind of technology is actually going to detract and take away people's ability to learn. Hands-On because they're going to become accustomed to that screen thing over your face and they're never going to know how to actually put their hands on anything in order to test it. Look for it, diagnose it. Uh. Additionally, what if I had a lean code and I'm looking for like some kind of a vacuum leak? Well, does that little VR headset tell me how to connect the smoke machine.
Does it tell me how to look for leaks? I Don't think it does any of that stuff. and I think people are jumping the gun big time and putting all of their money in one basket not realizing that when you try to apply that to the real world, it actually might not work. So let me close out this. YouTube video.
Oh, and by the way, um, YouTube videos are not a diagnostic. that's that's you watching somebody do the same thing that you're trying to do that. That's really all that that is. And cars are repaired on an on an individual basis, not as a whole or as a collective.
So unfortunately for the VR people and for the naysayers who say that that technology is going to replace us all, that was almost bad. going to scratch the paint. You see that my thing fell apart I Do not believe that this technology is going to replace anybody. Is it a tool that could be used? Uh, to help people out? Yes.
Is it potentially a good source of information? Well, it's It's the same information that is accessed differently. No different than if you have text messages on your Apple watch or on your iPhone or uh or things of that nature. So I'm I'm really not convinced that the VR stuff is really going to change anything and I'll come over here to this Cadillac to illustrate my point. So let's say I need to go up here and look for a leak.
Let's say one of these hydraulic lines right here like this one. that thing's leaking but I can't see it and I've got this headset thing on my face with a $2,000 piece of glass. Well let's say I'm walking around and I run into this. Bam just scratched my glass or I'm trying to get my head up into this little hole right here.
But I have a headset on how am I supposed to see up there? Does the VR have like x-ray vision? Does It Already know? How does the the modules in the vehicle communicate something like that? Uh, let's say they do it wirelessly through the internet. How does that thing communicate the fact that oh, look, there's some kind of an oil leak down here. Or there's a coolant leak dripping. Oh let's see.
Oh there it is. There's some coolant right there. How does the VR know that there's coolant leaking off of the bottom of the bell housing? It does not. The only thing that they're inventing is a way to access information differently.
You see all that's happening here. they're not inventing or Reinventing the wheel. Rather, they're not coming up with a Riv evolutionary concept. Uh, it's a very expensive device that you put on top of your head and then use to walk around looking like a cyborg. And realistically, you guys remember when cell phones came out, people were like so stuck in their phones that they were just kind of walking out into traffic and getting run over. These VR things are going to do the exact same thing to us. We're going to have these headsets on our brain and we're going to walk out in front of trains and get run over. But you know, I'm I'm not dismissing those devices as having some kind of a use use.
um, they. they're definitely plugging us into the Matrix a little bit harder. and and I do believe that longterm folks are going to I don't want to be too Doom and Gloom about it, but it kind of feels like a bad idea. Uh, sort of like implanting microchips into your brain is a bad idea, but it seems to be the uh, the Progressive Way of uh of moving through available technology like I said I don't think we should be doing that and I don't think that in the long run.
those things are going to help us diagnose anything and in fact they just make or they just may take away and subtract from fundamental knowledge because it's going to give access. and Direction uh, perhaps to uh to folks that are not ready or do not understand and know how to process that type of information, that's that's a possibility. So you know, call me a skeptic or whatever you want. Uh, no.
I'm not worried about being replaced by VR headsets. It's not going to work that way. You cannot digitize reality and then expect the results that you want. It's just fundamentally not possible.
but it could generate sales because if I were to go to the Diag tree for that code, it's going to say oh, replace the mass air flow or clean your mass airflow. or do something else with your mass air flow. It's not going to say oh, make sure that the connector's connected because those are things that folks usually don't assume are going to be the problem. Loose connections or rub through wires, things that are shorted to ground.
There you go. Power that down. It's just uh. I'm not worried about it.
And for the folks that think we should be worried about it, that's also what they said when OBD2 came out. uh in 1996, they were saying these little computers are going to replace mechanics. Uh, that didn't happen. We just simply use those as a tool to communicate with the vehicle.
Uh, unfortunately. uh. the VR headsets are from what I saw kind of based on those videos and what it looks like from the uh user point of view of those, you're just pulling up the internet with a hologram screen and you're able to wave your arms around in the air off. Wily newly like and interact with your hologram screens so it's it's the same information.
Um, now you just have a football helmet on your face in order to use that information and that will end my soap box rant of the day. So anyway, I've got no more work to offer on this particular uh monster right here. I've got the information that I need. uh had a good opportunity to go off on a little Soap Box about uh, augmented reality and now I just need to get this thing parked and I'll uh I'll order you I think I'll order or remove this ECM and then send it to uh have it repaired I'm not sure what the ECM people are going to want to do, but uh I will. uh, definitely Circle back to this video later on. uh once I have some direction up until that point and uh, well, at this point I have nothing more to offer on this particular video. So I'm just going to go ahead and close this one out right now. Uh, I will do such things as always by thanking each and every one of you guys for watching this video.
Hope you enjoy this video! Uh, let me know what you think about my little virtual reality rant in the comment section down below. Uh, do not forget to tap that like button while you're down there And most importantly, have yourselves a great day. See you guys later in a video End of Mazda End of rant End of Diag Ending of transmission Windows up, Doors unlocked Parking is the auto powering down.
California emissions are great! You can run the car all day and night and the stuff that comes out of the tailpipe is teleported to another state!
Embrace the technology and take the mark
I remember there was a rumor about the antenna on your phone causing problems in your head from prolonged use. I had a tin foil hat just in case.
You’re correct in your assessment, as far as I am thinking. In order for it to work, at least Artificial Intelligence and robotics needs to be combined with such technology and we would still need a technician in place.
I can't find a single YouTube video to help fix my car right now. I've been trying for a while. 5 different repair shops haven't fixed it, keep saying idk what it is.
Need your help ray.
My 98 ranger 4.0 will only run with the mass air flow sensor unplugged. What does this mean?
That VR crap is crap. People are stupid if they think a overpriced piece of junk is going to help anything….
36k miles and its having problems that shouldnt pop up till 100k plus.
Well if that think can please a woman and take out the trash.Then I'd be worried.
The biggest problem is assuming people want to do the work themselves, society is getting lazier each generation.
Well the issue with the RX-8 is the 13B-MSP Renesis engine. Mazda screwed up bad with that engine. They should have just stuck with the 13B-REW.
If I pull into a shop, and all the mechanics are walking around with VR headsets and clean hands, I'm looking for another shop, with mechanics that have dirty hands, and working wisdom. Just sayin…
VR is an expensive way to load the parts cannon. You still need the experience and tools to effectively diagnose and fix cars. Just being able to access them closer to your eyes doesn’t mean everyone’s suddenly a mechanic.
VR will have even less of an impact on mechanics than OBD 2. Most people don't want to work on their cars, they just want the car to work when they get in it to drive somewhere.
I think VR may come into use as a teaching tool on virtual car simulations of real world car issues. Other than that no.
VR, in this case, augmented reality, is a helper, not a replacer. at least not now:)
VR headsets will only feed the parts canon operators 🤣🤣
I wouldnt own one of them cars if it was free. Every single one Ive ever seen needs rebuilt after about 70-80k miles, they start leaking fluid every where fromt he engine case seals.
Wow… the comments in that online "discussion" were not only stupid, the people making them were real jerks.
I don't put my money in the Apple basket as it is.
Don’t worry, your job is about as simple as it comes, you won’t be replaced by technology
VR might be handy in providing a display at a glance so you don’t have to walk back to take another look, but it won’t replace the skill and experience needed to solve problems. Other than having access to information on the spot it’s no different than what we’ve had for several years now.
AI and VR are simply tools not replacements.
What do you recommend for a p0035 code? There is no apparent issue with the drive or the smoothness of the v6
I haven't seen a stock rotary in a minute!
Did we not learn from lawnmower man and terminator for that mater
Resistance is Futile
All modern tech helps one way or a other. But it still needs a human to sort the gremlins.
You can never fully replace a human.Ray you cannot be replaced with a computer ever.
So the facts speak for themselves.
Even a self driving car is crap.still needs a human at the wheel.
Ray you are irreplaceable knowledge and how to use it correctly is gained by experience. And you have shed loads.
Next vid please .
Great stuff Ray.
VR will not replace mechanics as someone still has to do the physical work.
for the vr stuff i can see it increase productiveity for veteran mechanics as they would have whatever relevant info in their face instead of leaving to find a laptop etc
We tried using 3D head sets in our training department. It was a joke. They spent millions of dollars on the program and we killed the program when it was such a failure. It has some good points but over all it did not help much.
I am with you a 1000%
I am called a Luddite because of my resistance to certain technology. I do not upgrade my phone when the latest one comes out; they do not make calls any better. I frequently leave my phone at home while running errands around town. I seek cars with minimal technology avoiding things like lane assist and auto-parking which are all sizzle, no steak.
I agree, with you, it will only make things faster, and more expensive. I can't do what you do because I don't have the fancy subscriptions and equipment for just an occasional repair.
Less offensively know as the rotary engine it was designed by a German man named felix wankel (childish giggles) and also known as the wankel engine (more giggles) which is a triangular eccentric rotary design a very high revving engine and mazda used it in the rx7 and 8
people are gonna walk out in traffic…. too late it already happened… saw an idiot wearing one while driving a car
by the time ai takes over we woud not drive those shitty petrol dependent metal buckets with oil leaks
Everybody needs to watch Wall-E without VR taking over ia to
I think augmented reality honestly will just help make mechanics more efficient, not replace them.
Wouldn't it be cool if you could have the ECM data go to your headset while diagnosing failures? Or to record what you are doing vs having to use go pros?
That said, Microsoft AR > Apple nonsense
Great video, as usual. Fun fact about AI. AI develops it's so call knowledge from on-line sources. As more and more on-line source become AI generated, it means it will become a feedback loop. Garbage in means garbage out.
$3500 STARTING for the apple vision pro. i can get so many goodies off the matco truck with that
What’s up with that v8 crown Vic?
These is no way that VR headset will replace Rays wit and charm.
When you said you might have to get your head in this little hole here, I couldn't help to think that, that dude has already accomplished that.
It's already kind of dumb that some service data conclude at a "Circuit low" code that you have to replace the component. Instead of first suggesting "Plug the thing in you dummy" before assuming the actual component is defective. Loose connections are probably one of the most common (and easy to fix) failure mode.
I can see VR in the classrooms for training and introduction to training and new concepts, putting you inside an engine or module to show you how is suppaes to work. When cell phone came out, everyone started losing their memories of even the most common numbers for us to call. So it has its place in learning, but not yet in the shop, especially with all of the nasty that can happen in the shop environment.
Listen this is just like what they say about Electric Cars. We are nowhere near the infrastructure to support all cars on the road to be electric. In order to change out all gas stations to be electric charging stations will be a long and very expensive and probably not possible endeavor especially since the oil companies have so much power and money that they're not going to let that happen so that's why electric cars are not the future. Period ! And also about the virtual reality thing It might be able to tell you what's wrong and what to change but the virtual reality can't change the part you almost forgot about that you need a technician in order to replace the part to unbolt it change it out revolt it also to order it you got to look at different options you can't just choose whatever option you got to look for what's best for the customer and their price range so trust me you got nothing to worry about Ray ! At least not for your time!
Personally I do not like the way the future is headed with technology. It provides too much control for the puppet masters.
Yes, AI is the future. No, AI will not replace mechanics. AI will simply become another tool in the technicians toolbox.
I have an I.C.D. (Implanted Cardiac Defibrillator) that monitors my vitals, and stands at the ready, with 15 years of battery life, to "jumpstart" my heart if it stops again. It is bluetoothed into my phone, which has a wifi connection, so it can be monitored by nurses at the cardiology center in Grand Rapids, MI., so I have microchips implated in my body…
The Mazda headlites need defogging, safety hazard
Why do you not use the merge lane at that right hand turn at the 4 lane highway??🤔
Ability of computer to assist mechanic (and, maybe call in the mechanic) will depend on instrumentation added to cars (with – I hope – standardization. The engine could tell you there is a leak of any fluid or pressurized system. And perhaps pinpoint it. Someday. Maybe.
Lawnmower man
VW and most german cars won't ever lock you out, without key out of car, whether older models or current ones. better designs…it matters
Ray…..stupid people will continue to be and do stupid stuff. Along with that I can also surmise they are also lazy.
The AI conversation is pointless, that's the same as the mechanic that gets cocky and says "I've seen it a million times, its this" and it's not that. Every car is a new or different case study, just like people are for doctors.
A big part of diagnosis is observing and interpreting in order to react/make decisions. If you don't make the observation or interpret it properly, you can't make the right decisions. No VR headset can do that for you.
I prefer using AR (Augmented Reality) as that interacts with computers AND actual reality. VR and AR does not replace the brain (CPU) of the human.
I would let you know about your reality rant but you keep erasing my post, guess truth hurts……
Agreed.
True mechanics won't use this VR nonsense for all the reasons Ray says…modern main stealer "fitters" might…would look in their little headsets under the bonnet (hood) and highlight which part to replace based on code reading diagnosis…no true mechanical diagnosis or repair….that is where society has gone wrong…everything is disposable…
If they tried to replace you with AI. They would charge so much for it the average car owner could not afford it. Look at what they charge for scanners and other high tech tools. Then you have to buy subscriptions galore because every car maker has to be just a little bit different so to make their brand inaccessible to the average car owner/ repairer. Without detailed flow and wiring diagrams it is pretty much impossible to do any in depth analysis of any newer car problem. I'm surprised that people aren't up in arms about this right to repair their own vehicles. There will always be the folks who don't or can't work on their cars, but really over complicating the repair of a vehicle is highway robbery.
I wonder how many Mechanics would actually use the VR for car troubleshooting. I'm sure they will be watching YouTube, TicTok or Virtual Prons while pretending to be working and actually get nothing done.
If you go to the mechanic and you see one of these guys wearing a VR Goggle, and he has a stubby pocket, then you know he is not working but watching Prons. lol
You right about that ray , great video 😁👍
No way that's ever going to take a mechanics job there's certain things that are absolute needs undertakers mechanics roofers etc
VR is just the monitor on your face that have inputs for external devices ( gloves, etc. ) VR does nothing. VR sex app. is still you just fapping.
Rainman! where is your shop located?
The vr glasses are a monitor with sensors to see movements. Not ai… You are correct. Hands on stuff will be hard to automate. Imagine replacing nurses, electricians, etc. The information side is one thing the physical side quite another.
1st time commenting, your reasoning behind technology is very sound, and accurate. Common sense is a rarity and more and more hard to find. You have an abundance of it over your 20 years of EXPERIENCE. Being 71 years old and know the value of experience for trouble shooting and problem solving. Keep up the fight. 😁
Ray, I have watched a few other mechanics on YouTube talk about VR and I agree with your. IT will not replace a real mechanic.
I also agree that watching a YouTube video does not accurately Diagnose a problem.
I have used your videos to see how to do something that I have to do like replace and alternator or battery etc… but VR can't diagnose a real problem. Technology like your scanner points you to POSSIBLE issues, many times the most likely issue, but you The Trained Technician have to go through the steps and find the problem, sometimes the technology helps but you are right it cant see the broken connector, the frayed wires, the wrong part used, etc…. I personally would not go to a Garage where I saw the tech wearing VR googles, unless I know the Tech is also a top notch mechanic.
looks like recipe for loosing fingers with that thing stuck to your face
Agree with your VR comments—but what about the motor mount diag?
Off topic: I think Every Garage should have a Hobart Dishwasher to keep tools Shiny
People are so foolish enough to put chips in themselves thinking their lives will be better. When in all actuality it just gives the people in power more control over your life. Cuz if you think about it. How are they able to pick up brain waves brain waves are picked up through frequency your brain releases frequencies whether you realize it or not that's how they're able to read whether or not you have brain activity. If that's true then they also can attack your brain with frequencies as well. And those frequencies can cause a whole sleuth of problems mental health issues you name it. They can alter anything in the human body using frequencies. Your neurons and your neurological systems operate on electricity and frequencies if that electricity or frequency is disrupted in any way it can cause health problems. Think of ourselves as biological computers. And yes there is electricity within our bodies which are neurons fire. Believe it or not you can actually measure the electricity being produced by the neurons. And yes those neurons can be disrupted those neurons electrical conductivity can be screwed with and messed with resulting in problems health-wise. The human Spirit however is separate from all of that human consciousness comes from the spirit I believe.
Alternate REEEEEEEEEality!
A mazda rotary with 40k on it? Time to replace the rotary
More government dumbing down?😢‼️😢
BORING! Too much,
yak yak!
No Rainman Ray's cool 80's music intro? I like to South Park Goth Kids dance to it. LOL!
I don’t think it will replace. It will be a tool, all be it, bringing the computer into you field of vision to interact with. Can you imagine when they start offering up dongle for ob2 port adapter so this can be displayed? Betcha that those adapters will cost 2000 bucks too if and when they come out.
Just like self driving trucks. Driver's are going to be obsolete. I'd love to see a driverless truck make it down a snow covered road with no lines going up a hill spinning tires. Or hit a patch of black ice going down a hill. It takes more than sensors to control a vehicle just like it takes sometimes many human sensors to properly diagnose and see the small things that are wrong with vehicles. Looking forward to more videos for decades to come.
The only way I would use that sort of VR tech it would have to be small like a pair of glasses and durable and it would be sick if there was a program or app that would give you an exploded diagram of what you are looking at to give you that x ray vision that sometimes we need to see buried lines that could be leaking.
Really loved your rant. I was working in the automotive field when OBD was being replaced by OBDII and from my experience since then all OBDII has done is piss off Back Yard Bob. Amateur mechanics have forgotten how to properly troubleshoot. When I was a service writer, we had guys who I called "shopping cart diagnosticians" which was basically a tech that would check the codes and rather than troubleshoot and diagnose what was broken, he would simply fill a shopping cart with parts until one fixed the issue. I had one guy who was so notorious for this we finally had to put a stop to it because if a customer requests an old part that we recommended they replace, and the part wasn't bad, we would likely lose a lawsuit. Part of why I like your videos Ray, is how thorough you troubleshoot. I'm well aware that your experience would likely get you through some of these issues quicker, but I like that, for the sake of the video and entertainment, you go through the entire process of proving a theory. I'll take it a step further to make my point. I'm a member of a few FB groups and forums and daily, someone will post "CEL came on and I got xxxx code, what do you think it is?" It never fails there will be 10 responses of people saying change this or that. Typically, I'll give them a few possibilities of the root of the issue along with the process to narrow it down. The biggest reason for that is, new doesn't mean good, it just means unused and clean. There is almost nothing worse than assuming a part is bad and going through the labor to change it only to find out either the old one is good, and you still have the issue, or worse the new part is bad and now you have 2 issues both causing the same symptom. Not everyone loves their job enough to do it twice. (I quote that from you all the time BTW).
Long story short, I agree with you 100%. AI or VR isn't replacing anything or anyone, it's just another tool that in the right hands will improve efficiency, but in the wrong hands will just cost more, which is exactly what OBDII scanners did and in some cases still do.
The “glass “ on Apple Vision Pro scratches like plastic
I have a friend at OpenAI and he checked the logs and apparently this whole video was generated by AI (no delorean) as are most of the comments. The system can now recognize if the mechanic is RR and its a MAF code and will now instruct the user to plug it in.
Another man driving a Tesla wearing Apple Vision Pro headset was arrested. You cannot see out Vision Pro like ski goggles. Cameras see what is in front of you
People who jump the gun and insist upon something that isn't proven are sorry to say, they are fools.
Another YouTube contributor Jerry Rings Everything. He took apart a new pair of Apple Vision Pro Headset. You might find this interesting
As a computer person I love the first step as clear the code and see if it came back😊
My car when I shut off the cruise control would loose throttle control
Did you run everyone out of the shop , where's Dave man
in terms of the headsets, yes everything you say i agree with, as somebody who owns a oculus/meta quest 3 (also has a color pass through mode) it is entertainment first (mostly) and a tool second. Yes there are ways to use it as a tool, there are 3d modeling programs that let you model basically a hologram or trace out real world objects. It is a different way of accessing the same info or interacting with said info. Love the video, Keep it up!
No es un"pequeño motor" Siendo un 1.3 litro de cilindrada unitaria, hay quienes dicen que debe considerarse a cada uno de los 3 lóbulos en la ecuación (como en 3 cilindros o de 6 cilindros en uno de doble lóbulo). Aunque nunca estuvo bien definido el tema de su cubicaje real, fue y es un motor potente, rápido y libre de vibraciones (excepto las del rotor excéntrico)
Creo será aún un poco mejor motor en el futuro, cuando se desarrollen y solucionen las causales de sus defectos (Ej: consumo de lubricante y combustible, contaminación, diferencias de Temperatura en el bloque motor, etc.)
The'only thing possible at the moment thats gonna replace mechanics is evs.😟
Thank you for reiterating the same thing I've been telling people about VR/AR. It will be a useful tool for many things, but it won't be all that substantial. It very well could make remote operating drones and robots easier and more tactical. It could change warfare a lot. It could make handling hazardous waste a lot safer. However, it will not make mechanics obsolete. Robots, automation, and AI will never be able to replace people in jobs like mechanics, computer support, construction, or other maintenance operations.
It's like I was telling people when "the cloud" started becoming so popular. I was telling them "there is no cloud, only other people's computers." It is essentially putting your data into someone else's hands, and that is not wise. Of course, now we're seeing a lot of companies moving to "local clouds," which is just putting your data back on your own computers, reversing a lot of what "the cloud" was meant to do. Soon, consumers will go back to storing their data locally again because they'll realize just how much their data is being misused to track their lives for customized advertising.
As long as there are cars…. there will ALWAYS be mechanics.
The simplest fundamental for all technicians that technology does not put in place is KISS: Keep It Simple Stupid (ie. fuse, connection, loose hardware)
Is it OK to leave the plastic covers off the engine? Wouldn't it run cooler.