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Happenings He: Hood So our guy up there has got a very flat trailer. He'll think he realizes it. Look at that, he's just riding along on the rim. Uh, not very aware that uh Tire's flat? I should probably go tell him I'm gonna go tell him.
What do you guys think should I tell him? or maybe he does know and just doesn't care. Also a strong possibility. All right, he's turning off I Hope he knows that's not cool and that is why you do not put car tires on your trailer. Oh yeah, pre-trip inspections gotta do that with trailers.
Hello everybody! Good day to you! Welcome back! This is day Two of this 2005. Hyundai Santa Fe uh 3.5 liter V6 thing was stalling running rough. We found it had an EGR valve that was stuck open and a damaged sensing element on the Upstream Bank One O2 sensor which is way way way down there where we can't even see because the light's not even turned on. There we go.
If you, uh, happen to miss the painful and arduous extraction of uh, this particular O2 sensor, just go back. Whoa. Playing gravity, You see that just go down into this video's description and it will take you back in time to the part One of this. Hyundai Santa Fe You can see here.
there's the old sensor. That's how it came out of the manifold, smashed and dented, melted. Uh what I think happened here is the EGR was stuck open and it just, uh ran superheated exhaust over this for such a long period of time that it eventually just collapsed. Uh, collapsed the sensing element but we had a lazy O2 it wasn't functioning and uh, this was definitely.
uh. this is the culprit of some of those Dtc's that we found in the ECM Now I have already noticed this when I ordered these and I would or after I received them. but I'd like to let you guys, uh, take a peek at what happens sometimes in aftermarket parts land. First of all, these are the only Upstream sensors that were available for this car.
Period. Could not find anything else anywhere else. Check out the part numbers though. Three, five, Zero, three, four, five, six, six on both boxes.
see that now although this vehicle only required one O2 sensor as per my calculations, I felt compelled to just go ahead and order both of them. These are both listed as Upstream. You just saw that they both have the same part number, but uh, I Want to point something out the stuff that causes vast amounts of headaches? that right there. do you see the difference? Let me flip it over.
Do you see the difference? These connectors are different between the two units. However, they both came as the same part number in the same box, but these are obviously and very clearly completely different units. Now, if we take the connector from the old O2 sensor, I ended up cutting it off so I could get a tool on it to remove it You can clearly see that one of these connectors is not like the other. See that right there? That's the wrong color so we can already.
uh, count that one out. But if we take a look at this one, you see that that uh, matches up much better than uh than this one right here. See how that has the rails where the clip is and this one does not. This one also has these two protrusions that stick out into the sensor body and uh, this one does not. so that tells me that this is the wrong part. It was not boxed properly and it's not going to fit the car. Now let's head over to the connector and just make sure that this connector does in fact fit because there is some subtle differences in it mostly right here where it mounts to its little bracket. But I just want to plug it in and make sure it's actually going to fit before we have to seed because again, this is a four hour replacement of this particular sensor.
and uh, I don't have to do it again. What we've got here is our connector that's the downstream O2 that's back on the converter and this one here is the Upstream and I've got it upside down. Nice solid click action so we're good. This is the correct unit for the vehicle.
All right. We're doing the lean over thing again trying to get Down. here. I'm actually a little sore from all this from yesterday.
Oh, you know what? I need to stop I should set uh, this heat shield back in first and then put that sensor in because remember I pulled the heat shield out with the sensor still attached and hold the wire through the hole. That was a quite cumbersome. Let's just get this guy back in. Unfortunately for me, it wedges in there very nicely and it's got stuck bolts and I'll be able to, uh, secure that with a uh, like a metal hose clamp or something.
It's got one bolt stuck that rusted through the heat shield and then one bolt broke off and I found one at the bottom that was already broken off so it technically has no bolts. Okay, that's tight. hand tight again with the slotted O2 sensor socket. Quick tug on the ratchet.
We'll finish that off. Click All right right now. I'm just getting this bracket installed. It's got three bolts that hold it.
one of them is already in the head, the other bolt that holds it runs through another bracket and then it bolts in. bail bolts into the cylinder head. Now those bolts are kind of pointed at me and up. so they're they're very hard to align.
I'm not having a good time doing it, but it's got to go back in. and I lost the bolt. Oh okay, where's my hole at there? It is okay. lined up again.
there's one. Okay, we're back in there with the the manual ratchet now. I can't get the enough torque delivered with that electric just because. Well, I just it won't do it.
So I'm doing it by hand. almost there. foreign when I get out of this. uh, this hole right here.
I don't like working behind this I think if I ever have to do this job again I'm just gonna like pull the engine out because I'm not having a good time and this is day two and I'm still suffering from day one fatigue. All right. Okay, two bolts are tight. We got one more small one on this side of the bracket and then that guy should be secure. Then we can do the other bracket. Did I miss uh with this problem? I'm missing that bolt here. There we go now. I got it.
Woohoo! Connect that guy right there on this bracket which mounts here. We can go ahead and connect these O2s right now. Slide that down to where it goes and we'll bolt that on later. Okay, so I've got a new Uh EGR unit here.
This was very unobtainium, hard to find. I'm going to go ahead and just apply vacuum to this to demonstrate that it does function properly. Come on, you know she opens in, she closes. This is a good functioning unit.
Let's go ahead and get this installed. I'm not going to tighten this, uh, this nut down on it just yet. What we're gonna do here is: get it in its approximate position and we'll leave it a little bit loose that way. I can bolt it to the intake manifold when it's time.
Let's take that a little bit looser. I'll be able to bolt it to the intake when it's time and then I will tighten down the nut at the very end That allows this thing to move around while it's being bolted on. and then when I'm all set and done with it after that's installed. I can reach back here with a wrench and snug up this little fitting right here.
Okey-dokes So got the coolant lines on the brackets are on. that one's tight. this one is not tight because it's got a lot of play in it and I need to make sure it lines up with the bolts on the intake and uh, got the O2 sensor connected I Just said that EGR is on. so uh, next up we're uh, we're gonna go ahead and get this intake put back into place I did just put a new gasket on that.
That's a new one. Ah, here, that's a new one, not the old one free. There you go and before I forget which I already did forget I need to fish that bolt out that I dropped when I took the intake off of The Nut rather it's way down there in the intake Valley Come here magnet. Oh it's a Is that a twofer? Yeah I got a nut and a it's like a valve cover bolt I didn't drop that gravity.
Are we missing one negative? Okay, all right manifold coming in. Cut that down over the studs on the lower manifold and that is it's home. Let's make sure we're not pinching the wires. Good good.
it's sitting flush. I'm gonna go ahead and get all the connectors reconnected. I've got to put the vacuum line back on the EGR Then we'll bolt this thing down and then move on to the this side over here where the throttle body is. This is actually going really well.
It took a like four or five something hours to get to this point where I'm at right now and I think reassembly is going to go just swimmingly. just some Creek I'll bring these uh up to spec later. Okay, upper bolt on this bracket back here has uh been threaded into the intake. Let me see if I can't get it tightened I'm trying to do this with power tools since I know everything's out now. Thank you. There we go. Got that one that's tight All right. I've got a couple more bracket bolts back there that need to Snug up.
Um, there's some yeah now I can see I can see what? I can't see. it's uh with all this stuff in the way I can't really see anything I can't even feel it. but I do have to get these last two bolts tightened. remember the ones I said I left loose to align everything Well, they're still loose while I'm back here I'll go ahead and set up that uh, that new EGR gasket and then Bolt the EGR in the head or to the intake.
there's a click. we're reaching around even deeper. Where is that bolt? Come on. Where are you got it? Come on please.
All right, got it. The tool is on. Yeah. I should have pulled the engine out of this thing.
seriously. might have been easier. All right. Okay, brackets tight.
Woohoo! Okay, let's move around back to the driver's side. We're gonna go ahead and get that EGR bolted to the intake manifold. So what I'm going to do? We're going to run the top bolt in and then we're going to sneak the gasket in there without dropping it because that would be unfortunate and it's off center. Okay, we go in there, better be lining up.
it's not wanting to be very compliant. Um, it's like too far this way, just a little bit. If I just push it, it needs to go towards the passenger side just a little bit. Come on Fred get in there and do it straight and it came out.
Oh I'm prying it over with these needle noses here. This job is murder. and I think I just dropped my gasket. Yeah I did.
Hooray! Okay, try again. I Feel like I'm about to damage that pry bar 30. that should. That should be enough.
It moves all right. What do? I do? Climb back in here. let's try this. uh, this gasket business again.
Okay, the gasket is over the bolt just trying to get it lined up lined up with holes I can't see I think that one's in. Yeah, there's one that one's threading. All right. Let's get that second bolt set up.
hold the engine out. So I work on Chevy trucks I don't have to do all this. Yeah, that one's a little crusty feeling there. Now we're threading.
Nice Good. Okay, okay. good. Somewhere we're almost there.
We're definitely going somewhere. Stubby ratchet with a 12 mil socket I Should finish this off with a much greater ease than my fingers can achieve I just don't have Terminator hand leverage as humans are soft and Squishy and weak. Okay, second bolt is running down with ease. The gasket's in there.
we're uh, we're getting. we're getting in the home stretch. This is good. It's tight.
woohoo but it's not tight enough. I'm gonna punish the next guy. Wrong angle all right. Put that little hose back right there. Good to go. Okay Throttle Body. what's next? All right. New Throttle Body Gasket sure that that's clocked properly? It is.
Yes, it is. Stick this guy back up. Another: Are you seeing why these don't get tightened down until they're all in? So you've got to move this around on occasion to get the threads to line up? You can't see. Clicks? Four clicks more clicks.
and while I'm holding the tool? I'll I'll revisit these intake bolts over here too. There we go. One more. All right.
that's good. See, we have a connector here. Put that one back on. Very good.
and then two hoses right here. I Believe that was the correct order. Vacuum hose for the booster that goes there. Foreign.
There we go. Good Good Good Good Good Good Good Good Connected. Let's get the rest of the connectors connected. That's idle Air control.
I Need to find a bolt back here on the back of uh, this throttle body that goes to that other little bracket right there. That one was missing when we got here. I Think I found one that's gonna work. Think I Hope I've made a couple attempts already.
Yeah, that one's good. Perfect. It's not too long. The thread pitch was easy.
the correct length was not. They were bottoming out seriously. I Restart this like three times. Click Okay.
I've got the brackets set back up for uh, some of these connectors here. just re-tighten those. That one for the O2s, the rear brackets are on. we're all out of bolts on the dash plastic.
I think I just got to get the intake Plumbing back together and we're in good shape here. Engine Air filtration element installed one more big hose, one more little hose and I think one more connector and you can go ahead and stockings the engine and we'll double check it, see if we have O2 sensor activity I do need to add some coolant. we lost a little bit but I need to check O2 sensor activity and then we'll go from there see if there's anything else we need to do to this thing. I Don't think there is there we go that goes there and this is supposed to connect here.
Yeah, that goes there. Weird weird setup. It's a Hyundai thing that's tight. that one's tight.
that one's not tight, but it will be so weird. A band clamp is also a bracket for a wiring harness connector. very weird. Okie Dokes Moment of Truth is upon us.
Let's head back into the cabin and starting the engine. This thing's gonna fire up here we go. What we got going on here: looking good, smells good, feels good. Gotta add some coolant to it.
This we can cool it. Let's check those lines. they are not leaking by what I can see I don't know if you guys can see I can see him not leaking. Food's flowing running smooth.
Check the scan tool and uh, we'll clear those trouble codes out to go for a drive cycle and see if they reset before we do that. We're gonna wait for this thing, but sure, and we're going to make sure that, uh, we go into open loop. Fuel control. begin scanning now please. Well, while the scanner's thinking about it, throttle feels good, seems to be a little bit more responsive I Recall yesterday, it kind of was boggy and sounded. It just sounded like it was out of time or something. it just didn't have. It wasn't responsive.
that's what I'm saying. Okay, so we still have our O2 sensor codes blah blah. Let's go ahead and clear all those out. Those are the previous trouble codes from before the repair ing check engine light powering down shut her down restarting.
Let's go back into engine codes. just make sure nothing's set right away. No trouble codes present. didn't think there would be unless I left something disconnected or unplugged or whatever I Want to check on uh, fuel trims and see if fuel trims come down? remember they were.
they were way off on Bank One Come on. Oh oh, are you ready to join us? Switch to Data Pids. There we go. We're gonna look for uh, short-term fuel trends.
Oh, they're already coming down. Look at that. I think one ended up at uh negative 4.5 So yeah, fuel trims are coming back into spec. Those were long terms.
Yeah, yeah, we see. long term was it 19.5 short term was 8.6 and long term on the bank. two is now 5.5 in short term is in the negative right now, down from 19.5 So yeah, it's it's all coming back into play in the fuel Air strategy is being recalibrated as we speak. Excellent.
All right. check this out. It's been it's been about 15 minutes or so. Long term fuel Trims on Bank One down to 8.6 Both of the short terms are hovering around at zero.
This is excellent. I'm gonna go ahead and pull the graph up and we're gonna go ahead and pack this vehicle out. We're going to go on a quick test drive real fast. I've already topped off the coolant, but I will recheck it when we get back.
I Put the engine cover back on. Everything has been reassembled. There's no bolts and parts left over, so that's always a win. I Think we're good to go.
One quick spin around the block. We'll confirm such things and that will bring this particular video to conclusion. Now let's go check that O2 sensor and make sure its data is doing what it's supposed to be doing. Look at here here's Bank One Sensor One And right here is Bank One Sensor two.
We're gonna watch these two guys switch. We can see that uh, the Bank One Sensor 102 is switching high, low, high, low and Bank two sensor one that's also switching high low high low. So everybody's doing what they're supposed to be doing backing out. Z Hyundai All right guys, we have seen all that we're gonna see.
All that's left right now is uh for me to ride around the block and just confirm such things after driving it. So I'm gonna go ahead and close this video out right now. so down we go I'm gonna flip her around, head back, go back to work on Project Jeep or something like that. So uh, as always like to thank you for watching this video. I Hope you enjoyed this video I Know this series ran a little long. the last video was over an hour I think is what it is. This was a pretty tough job but like thank you guys for hanging in there with me. Glad we got to get through this together.
So again and as always, thank you for watching and most importantly, don't forget to have yourselves a great day! See you guys later! End of Hyundai Well now that success has been achieved, the only thing left for us to do here is make it nice and shiny. Thanks again guys! See you later Foreign.
Awesome stuff brother!😎😍😎
What I've felt, what I've known
Never shined through in what I've shown
Never free, never me
So I dub thee unforgiven
back when hyundai wasnt bad! that 6cly was a great motor. im wondering the same if it would be easier pulling it. Maybe in a future video.
Hey Ray, fun fact, another name for the description below a YouTube video is the "dooblydoo"
Looks like one of the new sensors was probably bought as part of a parts cannon fix and returned in the wrong box when not required as it is the downstream O2 sensor, in the upstream box.
Did you use any anti-seize on the O2 sensor and the EGR threads?
Hey Ray, not a fan of the new intro it makes you appear to be a toothless, trailer park mechanic, but if you like it, it's your site, keep it.
Wow Ray! What a marathon effort. Tempted to send you a carton of Australian beer!
Respect! Nothing like swimming in an engine compartment to get those bolts in. Wish I'd listened more in School. LMAO Remember old school cars you could nearly throw an arm chair in an engine compartment and have a nap lol
At the end Ray shows us his swimming pool of brake clean on the roof connected to a pump and garden hose so he can more efficiently apply all the brake clean he wants.
Ray. Indian head or grease for the falling gaskets. Just saying
Gasket gravity…Great job Ray.
Jst wanted to say I love what you do for us. In a world of chaos and crybabies your channel is a breath of fresh air. No shitty background music or clickbait videos much appreciated
Did I miss something or Ray forgot to secure the heat shield? 🤔
You should really look into a topside creeper for jobs like this. It really saves your back from leaning over.
I’m glad you got this classic Hyundai running great again. I was worried for a while that you were going to set it on fire.
Good job very professional.
I know you're glad that one's done and in the books. I feel your pain buddy, those suck as you now know.
did you get your socket from behind the motor
As a tech in another field I'm surprised you wear a metal wedding band and not a silicone one for work. Nice to keep all your phalanges forever!
At around 12 minutes I see a pending P0710 – Cap on upside down.
Hey Ray the series was not to long it was good. It displays the real pain a Tech goes through to get repairs completed in the real world. Now how would you like to undue an EGR Tube that has spent it's life in the climate of London Ontario Canada. It's as much fun as yours if not more LOL. Rust Belt Al.
That's crazy those suckers are down low behind the engine and not even accessible from underneath? Makes me scared to get a Hyundai.
Put some hair on it Ray. Might be easier going in.
I hope you didnt forget to tighten the EGR tube nut,,
You said you should have pulled the engine, and I almost agree. Based upon the amount of corrosion on the exhaust manifold flanges, that may have just introduced a whole new set of nightmares.
Sometimes the hard way is the easy way.
You had me worried about those heater hoses, glad you showed us them.
I appreciate your diligence Ray. You are one Mechanic to be trusted. And that means a lot, to me, and I'm sure others as well!
Thank you for going beyond and doing what's right… Even if it isn't easy!
You may have done it but did you tighten up the nut on the EGR valve after you install the side bolts
This triggers some memories. Unforgiven played a lot when I was a teenager.
Nice intro. Digging the adlibs. BUT, I've said this before, you should start saying, "brought to you by reverse click productions".
No Ray, we can't see the difference because your piece of shit GoPro (granted, all GoPros are pieces of shit) won't focus that close. Go get a DJI or some other brand of camera that has a working auto focus. Love the videos Ray, but this has been driving me nuts for months.
You win the never give up, never surrender award of the day! To be honest that was a little brutal to watch. Coming from an aviation background way back when, I can remember many jobs like you endured, great job Ray! And no cussing! Awesome self control!
Rainman Ray's repairs, So you know it's good!
I way I would anything but oem or denso for that o2 sensor with all that work to change it
Excellent video Ray. The long ones are always good to watch too Ray.
Can't think of a better vehicle to be working on this time of year, can ya? d;o)
YouTube must have moderated their 'copyright strike' triggers. Good.
It’s obvious you have the technical knowledge but what really impresses me is your patience and good cheer.
Wonder if someone’s been digging at the catalytic converter to break it up and damaged that O2 sensor?
After this ordeal, Hyundai has moved way down the list of potential car buys.
That 3.5 engine sounds nice now. Much sweeter sounding that I expected from Hyundai.
Customer may not be happy with that $1000 bill but hey it was done right by one of the best!
Ray you've inspired me… I'm going to try talking nice when things aren't going the way I'd hope they would. I've dropped more bolts, gaskets and cuss words on one project than I bet you have in your life. That was a crazy repair to watch and not cringe. Just got the "Live" notification so I gotta go! Can't wait to see what's next.
I feel like your running commentary during repairs is your way of maintaining your sanity. Difficult or monotonous jobs are more interesting and bearable if you keep yourself ( and us) entertained.
Did you remember to tighten up the EGR tube nut ?
Did you replace the other O2 sensor?
You need a top side creeper.
Just realised – Santa in the car name. Most appropriate for the time of year.
An American that says Hyundai properly. What is the crazy universe i find myself in!
I had to do a similar job a few years ago and ever since then, when working on a transverse V6 the motor comes out! I usually do the same with old school V8s, but that's more for personal feelings rather than any real work performance reasons. Newer V8s I don't touch as I'm not a fan. It should be noted that I'm NOT a professional mechanic.
You're a patient fella Ray.
I think that every engineer should have to work on whatever they're going to design, for at least five years.
Awesome two parter Ray. Next time pull the engine.
I kinda miss the "doodlee doodlee doo"…. but it's obvious you're far happier and productive in you own shop. Room to grow.
Did you tighten the pipe going to the EGR valve, or did I miss it?
I'm really surprised you didn't add any anti seize to anything. At least to the tube and O2 sensor.
I can see a topside creeper would come in handy for jobs like this.
I'm Not going through almost 900 comments to see and I'm not gonna judge but…..WHY do I hear Metallica Unforgiven in a different language in the background??? Not trying to start anything just caught my attention.
Did I miss getting the EGR nut snugged up after bolted to the intake?
Wait. Are car tires and trailer tires different? Why?
EGR fitting, retainer nut tighten?
Another great job
Did I see that right, you have to remove the intake manifold to change the plugs on the rear bank? If so, I remember you checking a plug in the front bank, did you check the rear bank? What a maintenance nightmare engine.
Well doctor the patient lives to see another day. 👏👏👏👏👏Ray, I love your Rainman Ray’s Repairs intro 👍👍. Also it’s great to see the customers vehicles that you worked on before when you were at the other location, being brought to you at your new shop. Because you have a fantastic reputation.
If the gasket is symmetrical, hold one side, put the bolt in, then swing it down into place for the second bolt… Free tip Friday lol
engines look weird these days!
wow Ray I can't believe how you have kept your cool on this repair, had it been me would have been more bleeps than words good job
Ahh Hehe, he said squishy.
I’m loving the new intro!
I wish I was a slim man, my short fat arms don’t fit in places like those!
I would put Anti Seize on threads of O2 Sensor, it might be you again that works on this vehicle or some other poor soul 30,000 miles down the road…
Your the man
Anyone noticed that the grey one also wasn't tied like the one with the black end? It was probably a return with wrong part in it, then resold…
I used to have a midnight blue '05 Santa Fe. One of my favorite cars to drive , but what a soggy booger to work on.
Hello Ray. Do you ever use anti-seize on the exhaust threads at the sensor and EGR valve?
A very Purple rain intro Ray lol
I like the new opening!
No O2 sensor access from underneath? Fail Hyundai!
Could the other O2 sensor be the downstream sensor. Looks like the connector was gray like the one on the harness.
Clean the headlight covers; no light is coming out, and drivers are lame.
Been enjoying Dan Vasc in the background
I hope all is working out for you because, you are a very honest hard working mechanic with the patient’s of Jobe.👍👍👍👍👍🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽✌🏻
MANOWAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was watching and commented “don’t forget to tighten the EGR tube flare nut Ray” while you bolted up the throttle body and I was like “oh yea, why am I talking to the TV” ??
The down side of front wheel drives, hate working behind the engine like that, royal PIA.
Your new opening is so '90s… and I love it, lol. Also, could tell immediately your repairs worked on the car. Was running so much smoother. Was a great idea to tackle the O2 sensor while you were in there anyway. Was part of the problem with the way it was deformed like you said. Anyway, another great video Ray. Thanks for sharing.
My experience with Walker sensors has been the connectors do not fit together properly.
I don't remember you tightening the pipe nut to EGR ?!
Just know this is the perfect car for a psycho
Should have pulled the engine out.
Love the new intro.
The problems that you had repairing this vehicle were ass kickers. However, being the technician that you are everything came together in the end. Good on you Ray! Your knowledge of auto repairs is awesome. As are your videos. They could have been 2 hours long and I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
I could have done it better……. Haha……. Right. Right. Good job Ray.
Ray just another great video. Thanks for all the great videos.
Put you one of those hydraulic door closers on that open door or a screen door spring JS
New tee shirt idea…. "Should Have Pulled The Engine Out!"
Well done! I wish I could find a good tech in my area that is as conscientious and knowledgable as you.
do love the new intro …. very 80's dude