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Hello folks I Sad to make this video. JY Seus is going to help us out. Hello, he's got the he's got the muscles. Uh what? I need you to do turn this thing left and right until you hear the the popping noise.
We have a uh, a nasty popping noise on this brand new steering gear that we just put in. Let's go see what's going on here. You hear that this is not okay and we've been looking for about 20 minutes for this thing. I'm looking at everything besides the steering gear which is what we just put in.
Look this right here. I Can feel it that Creek that nasty creaking noise. Watch this. Keep going there buddy.
Watch this right here. It's the in plate. See it moving. Watch that this thing is eating itself alive.
Go a little faster if you would sir. Come on. work out one more time. Fast There it is right there.
Unbelievable junk that's brand new. Oh, time to do it again. An hour later I have the steering gear re removed again, it's out again and it's over there on the bench. uh, waiting for the new one to show up.
So I think I'll just go autopsy that one since I didn't make the same video doing the same thing on the same truck a second time. we'll just go tear that brand new steering gear apart and see just how junk it really is. All right, we're over on the bench now. I've never autopsied one of these things before so not not certain how this is going to go.
So I guess I'm just going to start with what I can see which are some Fasteners to pull these these things apart here. See what? uh what the deal is with this heavy paint? Okay Uno m Let's see here: I don't know if I have to take this uh, adjuster nut off or not but I do know I can't get my socket off with all this paint and these bolts. that's a that's a bad sign I I should have known but uh BBK is a reputable brand I don't know. maybe this is the counterfeit part or it was returned from a box like someone bought the BBK part and then threw this in there and returned it.
It could have been that cuz I don't I just don't know there's some fluid. okay I do need to remove this little uh adjust nut business up here MH I wonder if this has Carnage or no Carnage Okay so there's our shaft here we go. Let's see I need more illuminators. Okay so looking down inside of this thing I can see like the teeth marks from the gearing.
oh I got to figure out how to get this apart some more I don't even care if I can't send the core back so there's our spline bearings down there. There's a bunch of flex in those I can't tell if this is a new unit which is full of rust by the way or if it's been. uh, if it's just been rebuilt somehow or whatever. Yeah, that's a bunch of wear marks.
This is a remanufactured something. something. They put new bearings and seals in it and painted it. Yeah, there's a bunch of wearing on these gears right here.
or a bunch of wear. This gear face is a different width than that gear face. I Don't know if that's normal or not. So I guess the way this is supposed to function is when we turn the input drive right here from the steering shaft. It runs these gears across these gears right here and that's going to cause the shaft to turn. I Think that's how that's going. So there's a bearing in there. All that noise.
Yeah, there's a bearing in here. Then there's another bearing that supports that shaft down inside of this, uh, little housing right here. See what else is going on with this? There's our dust seal and then Down in the Hole there's a looks like another seal. Okay, but that does does not explain why this thing was flexing forward and backwards and why it appears to be sealed with a RTV silicone.
So let me try to figure out how this thing comes apart. We can take it apart more. So this job's like throwing in two catchphrases: I Love my job so much I'll do it twice and it just cuz it's new doesn't mean it's any good. So I'm trying to figure how this comes apart I wonder if there's a snap ring back here that locks this thing in position? Oh I Feel something? Yeah, there might be a snap ring on this piece and it looks like there is a snap ring that I can't seem to get out with normal snap ring pliers I can see the uh little indent right there.
I'm going to try to go into that with a uh, like a screwdriver. maybe pop that snap ring out. Y there it is. What a piece of junk.
Yeah, you scratch off all the Cosmetic work and then down below it's it's ugly. Very ugly. If I can get behind that ring with a little pocket driver here, no yeah, that's going to be hard to get out of there. Very hard to get out of there, if not impossible is ooh nope, didn't get behind it.
Okay, that's not coming apart. uh I need to get that ring out. Not cool I know how to get that ring out of there, but it's not going to be very nice. Method: Loud noises.
we'll chop the case to Pieces until the ring falls out that that'll work. Yeah, definitely an autopsy now. come out. I Win! Kind of Okay, the ring is cut in half.
That's a start. Let's see here I want to try to turn it? there? We go. Okay, that's half the metal ring and the other half is going to come out the same way. I Imagine yeah.
I Have no idea how they get those things apart out in the wild, but that's how I did it now. I See to pop that cover business out. Theoretically, it should just pop right out right there. Popped right out.
Okay So we've got a seal in here I Can see how that cover could move around a little bit, but it doesn't explain why this was hitting the end of that cover. I did find a big bolt or a nut. Let's take that thing off and see what happens. or I'll rotate the shaft and it can do the work for me.
Let's see if this thing's going come out here. It comes. Look at that. there's the Piston I Guess that's the Piston or a piston and the gear coming with it h a bunch of bearings. Okay, so what was making all the popping noise? Worn out tolerances. Okay, so there's a there's a worm gear in there. That's how that's working. Take a look.
There's a worm gear down there. You guys see now you can see so that worm gear appears to go. It threads inside of this piston device right here. the one covered in Rust Brand new part that worm gear threads in here moves this piston back and forth and this piston is going to act on this shaft turning the shaft.
That's how that's supposed to work. Okay, see, yeah, this is just worn out junk. look I'm looking at that shaft down there. Hey, look in there.
I'm looking at the shaft down there and it's full of Nicks and scratches and scrapes and damages. This is not a new unit at all. This is a fake part or somebody committed Larssen and they reboxed a cheapo remand I Mean look at this. This thing's covered in.
it's covered rust. How's this Brand new? That seal doesn't look like it's been replaced. That is a hydraulic seal. Uh, it almost looks like there should be another one like an O-ring right here.
that's not even there and there's wear all over the place pitting in that gear right there. That gear face. The pattern on these are atrocious. Yeah, this thing was flexing and popping, making all kinds of noise.
What a piece of junk. Unbelievable. Okay, well. I guess that completes the autopsy of the steering gear.
It's not what I thought it was. This is garbage and I have to do the job again. Love my job so much! I Do it twice. See you guys later.
Thanks for watching autopsy complete.
Not a worm gear, its a Ball Screw. The ball bearings fit between the shaft and the nut
I guess that junk steering box is nothing that scrap metal now.
Well. at least this one is never going to be "rebuilt" and sold as new to anyone ever again.
I have seen some of the places in India were some of these items are re-manufactured. I will use the term re-manufactured loosely. I would not want to have to trust them with my life. They are done with the least amount of parts that they can get away with. All those bearings that came out of it are what the worm gear rides on. I would guess that it was short a few balls and it allowed way too much play and the piston was able to hit the end of the housing. As you said junk.
You put all the labor to replace a part to find out it's no good! The parts place says "sorry"& gives you a other one your out the labor for doing this again 😢
Looked like the plastic was rubbing too
Unfortunately, the steering gearbox should have been inspected before installation. There are specifications to be tested for full range motion so it does not lock up in the free return end positions. simple test with an inch/pound torque wrench. old school DIY .
Can't trust reman or aftermarket parts these days it seems
I was shocked to see Ray shopped a maybe good rebuildable part, but i kinda understand…He's used to change parts because it's cheaper than repairing them…Because workmanship is expensive and the new parts are cheap…Not like India or Brazil where we repair everything!!!😅😅
Come out, come out where ever you are
Man that is CRAZY!!! Never seen one with its “heart beating” like that when the wheel was turned. lol that was cool to see, but sucks to have to do the job twice though for sure.
As Vice Grip Garage calls it, a Craig's List rebuild, tsss tsss
I knew wright away that that's a poorly rebuild part just to lookink how bad it's painted…40 years wrenching…
I've rebuilt a couple of Saginaw steering boxes and they are actually a simple, great and somewhat sturdy design in my opinion! And at least they can be rebuilt as a DIY.
The big end cap is held in by that snap ring indeed. First give the cap a tap with a rubber mallet, just to shift it a little deeper and free the snap ring. Locate the hole on the edge of the housing, through which you can push a small punch, which will dislodge the snap ring. Now you can easily pry the snap ring out.
The most tedious of the entire rebuild is getting the ball bearings in correctly and in sequence. There are an equal number of 2 sizes, one set darker grey and the other set "nice and shiny". These are 2 slightly different sizes and need to be alternated when inserting/installing. Best practice is to use grease to stick the bearings in place, in particular in the 2 halve end caps.
Possibly something went wrong there and one of the bearing balls was either missing, got dislodged due to improper install or was simply dropped inside the housing and not in the "channel" where it's supposed to go…
Ray, just because it's new doesn't mean it's any good…..Eric O!
I hope the next one is better
Ray how do you recover your time and expense from something like that?
WTF
Faaark looks like a spray rebuild .
The worst thing is even basic knowledge mechanic could rebuild the unit
For a power steering box it’s absolutely filthy inside
Not fake just very bad Chinese junk
they are all SHIT. Ive done 359 000 km on the original, and blow rebuilds one every 20 000km. Im about to give up and buy a PSC with hydro assist
Dude ,Dave did try to tell you it wasn’t gonna work yesterday in his way 🤷♂️. So give him some props on camera.
Sweet nice 5000 doller potential fine . And it's on video. Ray you need major safety training as a owner and a worker. You are a great tec but you suck at safety and protecting your fingers and hands that make you the money. See ya can't watch any more.
Dave was right it didn't have a smile face. 😊
It's always good to see Ray doing his mechanic stuff, but it's a real treat when some strange, bizarre happening, garbage company or (potentially) unscrupulous individual activates his Diagnostician Skills
Well that sure won't be a rebuildable core! 🙂
Jiiiisus!!! Talk about playing with peaoples life 😱😱
only steering box worth a damn is RED HEAD. or factory new.
bottom clip has a hole to put a pin in to push out.but that was a dulux rebuild.dulux was a [aint here in australia;
That was almost as cringe as watching the axle bearing replacement video.
Definitely voided your warranty on that one!!!
I suspect the box was from a wreck, if the worm gear has any ball marks it's usually from an impact from an accident. This steering box looks like it wash just washed painted and thrown in a box.
I hope the parts store took care of this and paid book rate for your labor
I sandblasted new track chains for a D8 cat dozer, it had partially burnt, new track pads, new interior, a few new hoses and wires, new seat and a fresh coat of cat paint, they loaded it on the lowbed before the paint was even dry!! Mechanics were betting on wether there would be any paint left by the time it got to the buyer!
This company was known for this type of "overhaul"
I hate companies that do this…..
What is a spline bearing Ray?
You now have video proof of what you took off as a replacement part, so there is no reason you cannot be compensated for being sold a fake or bad part
Last time I replaced one I asked parts to get me a rebuild kit. They looked at me like I had 3 heads. Asked me why. Cause I don't trust parts anymore. You almost have to test and fully inspect every part. Atleast now a days, it's good practice to. But costs more time. Ruins flat rate techs.
the worm gear has the ball bearings ride the worm. bet during the rebuild, If that even happened, they fell down to the bottom of the shaft, causing further extension, pushing on the case cap? perhaps. garbage none the less.
I had a ''lifetime warranty'' on some parts for my '71 GMC Jimmy thru Checker Auto Parts. No problems til they got bought out by O'Reilly Auto Parts .Alternators and external v9oltage regulators, I kept replacing — only to fail again. I finally bought a new one online with an internal regulator and it runs good. When I had to replace my steering gear they couldn't replace it, so they cashed me out for about $350. Then I got a new one from Rock Auto and it runs good.
Headlight dimmer switches and EVRs are no damn good.
I have seen same in "reman" steering gear.. junk, what was done was clean the exterior, maybe replace seals, then paint it. The preload was over tightened. Preload presses the sector gear axis, which drives the wedge-shaped sector gear closer to the piston rack. "Possibly", just loosening the preload screw would have made the gear workable.
your steering gear is full of Chinesium. and it is trying to escape.
Ray, what you're calling A "wormgear" is actually a BALL SCREW. All those ball bearing sit in the helical groove in the shaft & as it rotates it moves the piston. What you were hearing was probably bind and blown out clearances in the ball screw.
Faaark
Junk part, so sad you just installed it.
Ray can we get a video of you servicing different tools and equipment around the shop? Checking fluid on jacks, rebuilding/greasing heavily used ratchets, servicing the lifts, changing ATF bibs on the trans flush machine… Etc PLEASE
Do you suppose, there may be crooked parts companys out there who simply
call up wrecking yards & purchase steering boxes, clean & paint them & sell
them as reman?
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What part house did you get it from?
That’s a dirty trick. Bastards!!!
Cheers
I have ZERO confidence in anything NEW. It has to convince me it is good.
It has to show me it works properly to build my confidence in it. If given a
choice, I prefer a used part that has proven itself to be reliable. Known
good.
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There is supposed to be a hole where you can used a punch to push the ring out! I have rebuilt several of these! The worm gear and the ball bearings work together and you have to have them in there just right!
I think this is called a "Saginaw" steering box, after the ball-screw inside.
That was my day today. Brand new copier developer assy. A quick 30 minute replacement. Put it in and it codes a motor lock error. 3 hours later after disassembling got the drive coupling loose. China laughing all of the way to the bank over stupid American.
Ray these people must hate you 😂
That part steered you wrong Ray. ☹️
Hi Ray, the worm gear holds those balls in place which helps to move the whole steering gear, it's called a recirculating ball steering gear, and from your diagnostic experience, it looks like the worm gear is so worn that it was riding up around the the balls and the whole piston assembly was sliding over and hitting the end plate, hence all the clicks, clacky noise you heard!! I still have a Chilton auto/truck repair book, hardback that my dad used back in the day that shows this type of steering gear in detail and has all the information on how to rebuild such unit back to brand new status !!, whoever "rebuilt " this steering box was really lazy, and the part could have caused a very serious crash!!, get on the parts dealer that sold you this, show them this video! Great job !
So who pays for the labor when this issue occurs?
Won't be getting that core back lol
It sounds like it's judge Judy time !!!
Looks like Dave was correct when he said it wasn't the same part and not going to work because of the smiley face.
The heavy paint job is a clue to a cleaned up used part. People do go to a lot of work to make an old part look new. Some parts sellers are not checking them out on a return. I've gotten old parts before.
Too bad that some people would stoop this low. What a waste of time and effort and expense. Wouldn't mind seeing a follow up to get to the root cause of this problem.
First Ray, I want to say I'm not a fan of yours. This show helped redeem you greatly! Sorry that you have to do this job again. I've been there done that, I now only use premium OEM parts. BBK really…
O'Reilly's?
A county that enables and permits this kind of FRAUD is a country that is doomed. This is what happens when there is no longer any base of USA firms that do actual rebuilding work. And, in this case, the bad part is a dangerous part.
I would guess it was a take the new rebuild out and take the one that was making noise that was being replaced cleaned up and slap a fresh coat of paint on it and return it.
Or someone who was on rate and needed a raise so clean, paint and re-box in new box send it down the line. Not good, someone sooner or later going to get hurt or worse.
You are a great and honest mechanic, Ray and do your profession proud.
This steering box had bad written on it before you installed it. Seen it before many times.
If they charge a core, good chance it's rebuilt
When I saw you cutting that piece of junk with the grinder a phrase came to mind: Cut the crap!
Actually a very satisfying video. 👍 👍
Someone must have cleaned up and painted it. Then repackaged it in a new box and returned it to the parts store saying that it was a wrong part.
HOLY COW!! All that internal rust is crazy!
good saying Ray "if its new doesn't mean it works" . i traveled from our farm to adelaide city 150kms to buy a new sunbeam electric fry pan i got it home and it didn't work,when i buy something new now i make the sales ppl plug it in and show me it works cheers mate
Please tell me you were faking how to take gearbox apart.
I was wondering why a new part was painted when it was unboxed.
I've been burned by steering gears more than any other reman part. Cardone, AC Delco, Motorcraft, BBB, all remans are junk. The one in my bay, an oem is not available. Going with a redhead gear. Putting it in in the A.M.
That is highway robbery.. They should be fined and eat the cost of lying.
Very sad state of affairs when you can't rely on your parts supplier to supply good parts. Now who pays for the labor time of having to R&R the thing twice? Further I'd be extremely leery of buying another unit from the same supplier. Lastly i question how long any light duty unit will last where a heavy futy unit was originally installed for a reason.
Not a worm gear, it's a ball screw.
WHAT…?? Ya mean to tell us that the HEAVY PAINT DIDN'T MAKE IT ALL NEW and WORKING PERFECTLY…??? 🤔 HOW CAN THIS BE?!?
I sold auto parts for over 40 years. Quality is an oxymoron in today's market. File a "labor claim" with the store.
Graig’s list rebuild
Someone bought a new gear and cleaned up and painted the old one…Returned …Said didn't fit…I used to work at Napa and seen this happen before
Wow, should have avoided the comment section. So many armchair advisors getting bent out of shape about taking an expedient route to diagnose why the part seemed defective. Seriously, if you know better, or would have done it differently, then how about sharing without implying someone doing it THEIR WAY is somehow inferior to you? Start your own channel and show the world how it's done instead of wasting your valuable time kibitzing random videos trying to convince other viewers your somehow superior to someone actually DOING THE WORK right in front of you… Sheesh.
Three letters: OEM
Hope you can recoup some if not all of the cost of that part! And whoever responsible for the fraud gets caught.
What the hell !?!?! That end cap has to be pushed forward,slightly,and then the ring can be pried out using a small hole in the casing.
I quit watching when you went after it with the grinder !
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How do the hydrolics help move that thing? It looks like the steering wheel does all the work.
uhhh, you say it was sold as a new part?
yet you tear it apart? heck ray, i would of thrown it back in the box and told who ever it came from it was broken junk and give a replacement.
why would you forego the cost? Now you gotta go spend more to get yet another one… i don't get it
Hey probably it's off a junk truck and repainted to make it look new and resell it as new to make profit. My wife bought a 2016 Kia from the dealership back in May 2023 and before Jan 2023 they had to put a new motor in it. The motor was on recall they sold it hoping it would last until it was paid off but it didn't work out so Kia had to eat that motor plus reimburse my wife over $300 for out of pocket car rental while they repaired her car.
Rebuilt vs remanufactured vs refurbished vs new flip coin. just saying
When I worked for the FAA as a safety inspector one of the things that we would look for was a repaint job on a replacement part. Most of the time it was a used part that had lived its time limit was cleaned up and repainted and sold as new. Why the devil folks would do that on an aircraft is beyond me. So to do it on auto parts does not surprise me! You spent time replacing that part and you get to eat it. That really sucks.
Your the man Ray click
Your parts house should watch this and summarily be embarrassed.
Even after the autopsy I would still send it back because they were stupid enough to send you the shit part to begin with. Who’s going to pay your time to do it again?
I bought a rebuilt steering gearbox from AutoZone a couple of years ago and had the same problem. Auto Zone wouldn't warranty it even though it was under warranty. Not the first time with Auto Zone. I learned the hard way about rebuilt starters from AutoZone, had to replace one 3 times in a year. After that they said there was no more warranty. Now I don't anything else from them unless I can't find it somewhere else.
I used to rebuild Datsun 510 steering boxes at my old job, but my boss called them reconditioned. I argued that it was not correct because all I was doing was inspecting and fitting new bearings.
Thanks for steering us through that interesting and informative autopsy. I wondered right away where those ball bearings were supposed to go. Fortunately, a couple of folks had a logical and likely correct answer. Too, I'm always delighted to learn just how hidden things, such as trim panels, and in this case the snap ring, are assembled so they can be disassembled. The access hole is obvious once you're told, but coming to that conclusion on your own is more difficult. I guess all a body can do is to try reverse designing the system in your head. How could I arrange it so that I can easily access that eyeless snap-ring? Of less importance, I'd also wonder why a snap ring without "eyes" (or whatever those little holes in snap rings are called) was used.
Seeing as how nobody sells the heavy duty item with the smiley face anymore, I would suggest rebuilding the original unit. Where I live in Northwest Washington, when you go to a parts store, they never have it in stock, if it's anything with a core charge. The next day your rebuilt part arrives, it was in Oregon in a warehouse, the core gets thrown on a train and sent to Mexico, where someone will rebuild it for 16 cents an hour. Washington charges businesses an inventory tax on the value of your stock on hand, Oregon does not, so they keep all of the parts in warehouses in Oregon, and every day trucks bring anything ordered the day before up I-5 to the parts store. Anything that can be rebuilt for 16 cents an hour by a Mexican, is something I can rebuild better myself. Plus the added bonus of never getting the wrong part from the store, which they cannot replace with the right one until the next day. The guts inside that steering box are forged out of probably the best steel they could get for that job, I trust they will not be excessively worn. As for that box you autopsied, I wonder if the input shaft was not centered, allowing the assembly inside to push on that cap. Like, someone spun it 360 so the marks lined up again, but it was not where it should have been. Next try, spin the input shaft both directions until you determine where the middle is, it should be an equal number of turns from dead center right out of the box
Can't wait to hear the bs excuses when they call and cry that you're hurting their business. Lol