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”Intro Music by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio”
Thanks to Jesse for making the intro and graphic for us to enjoy!!!

Hello folks I Sad to make this video. JY Seus is going to help us out. Hello, he's got the he's got the muscles. Uh what? I need you to do turn this thing left and right until you hear the the popping noise.

We have a uh, a nasty popping noise on this brand new steering gear that we just put in. Let's go see what's going on here. You hear that this is not okay and we've been looking for about 20 minutes for this thing. I'm looking at everything besides the steering gear which is what we just put in.

Look this right here. I Can feel it that Creek that nasty creaking noise. Watch this. Keep going there buddy.

Watch this right here. It's the in plate. See it moving. Watch that this thing is eating itself alive.

Go a little faster if you would sir. Come on. work out one more time. Fast There it is right there.

Unbelievable junk that's brand new. Oh, time to do it again. An hour later I have the steering gear re removed again, it's out again and it's over there on the bench. uh, waiting for the new one to show up.

So I think I'll just go autopsy that one since I didn't make the same video doing the same thing on the same truck a second time. we'll just go tear that brand new steering gear apart and see just how junk it really is. All right, we're over on the bench now. I've never autopsied one of these things before so not not certain how this is going to go.

So I guess I'm just going to start with what I can see which are some Fasteners to pull these these things apart here. See what? uh what the deal is with this heavy paint? Okay Uno m Let's see here: I don't know if I have to take this uh, adjuster nut off or not but I do know I can't get my socket off with all this paint and these bolts. that's a that's a bad sign I I should have known but uh BBK is a reputable brand I don't know. maybe this is the counterfeit part or it was returned from a box like someone bought the BBK part and then threw this in there and returned it.

It could have been that cuz I don't I just don't know there's some fluid. okay I do need to remove this little uh adjust nut business up here MH I wonder if this has Carnage or no Carnage Okay so there's our shaft here we go. Let's see I need more illuminators. Okay so looking down inside of this thing I can see like the teeth marks from the gearing.

oh I got to figure out how to get this apart some more I don't even care if I can't send the core back so there's our spline bearings down there. There's a bunch of flex in those I can't tell if this is a new unit which is full of rust by the way or if it's been. uh, if it's just been rebuilt somehow or whatever. Yeah, that's a bunch of wear marks.

This is a remanufactured something. something. They put new bearings and seals in it and painted it. Yeah, there's a bunch of wearing on these gears right here.

or a bunch of wear. This gear face is a different width than that gear face. I Don't know if that's normal or not. So I guess the way this is supposed to function is when we turn the input drive right here from the steering shaft.
It runs these gears across these gears right here and that's going to cause the shaft to turn. I Think that's how that's going. So there's a bearing in there. All that noise.

Yeah, there's a bearing in here. Then there's another bearing that supports that shaft down inside of this, uh, little housing right here. See what else is going on with this? There's our dust seal and then Down in the Hole there's a looks like another seal. Okay, but that does does not explain why this thing was flexing forward and backwards and why it appears to be sealed with a RTV silicone.

So let me try to figure out how this thing comes apart. We can take it apart more. So this job's like throwing in two catchphrases: I Love my job so much I'll do it twice and it just cuz it's new doesn't mean it's any good. So I'm trying to figure how this comes apart I wonder if there's a snap ring back here that locks this thing in position? Oh I Feel something? Yeah, there might be a snap ring on this piece and it looks like there is a snap ring that I can't seem to get out with normal snap ring pliers I can see the uh little indent right there.

I'm going to try to go into that with a uh, like a screwdriver. maybe pop that snap ring out. Y there it is. What a piece of junk.

Yeah, you scratch off all the Cosmetic work and then down below it's it's ugly. Very ugly. If I can get behind that ring with a little pocket driver here, no yeah, that's going to be hard to get out of there. Very hard to get out of there, if not impossible is ooh nope, didn't get behind it.

Okay, that's not coming apart. uh I need to get that ring out. Not cool I know how to get that ring out of there, but it's not going to be very nice. Method: Loud noises.

we'll chop the case to Pieces until the ring falls out that that'll work. Yeah, definitely an autopsy now. come out. I Win! Kind of Okay, the ring is cut in half.

That's a start. Let's see here I want to try to turn it? there? We go. Okay, that's half the metal ring and the other half is going to come out the same way. I Imagine yeah.

I Have no idea how they get those things apart out in the wild, but that's how I did it now. I See to pop that cover business out. Theoretically, it should just pop right out right there. Popped right out.

Okay So we've got a seal in here I Can see how that cover could move around a little bit, but it doesn't explain why this was hitting the end of that cover. I did find a big bolt or a nut. Let's take that thing off and see what happens. or I'll rotate the shaft and it can do the work for me.

Let's see if this thing's going come out here. It comes. Look at that. there's the Piston I Guess that's the Piston or a piston and the gear coming with it h a bunch of bearings.
Okay, so what was making all the popping noise? Worn out tolerances. Okay, so there's a there's a worm gear in there. That's how that's working. Take a look.

There's a worm gear down there. You guys see now you can see so that worm gear appears to go. It threads inside of this piston device right here. the one covered in Rust Brand new part that worm gear threads in here moves this piston back and forth and this piston is going to act on this shaft turning the shaft.

That's how that's supposed to work. Okay, see, yeah, this is just worn out junk. look I'm looking at that shaft down there. Hey, look in there.

I'm looking at the shaft down there and it's full of Nicks and scratches and scrapes and damages. This is not a new unit at all. This is a fake part or somebody committed Larssen and they reboxed a cheapo remand I Mean look at this. This thing's covered in.

it's covered rust. How's this Brand new? That seal doesn't look like it's been replaced. That is a hydraulic seal. Uh, it almost looks like there should be another one like an O-ring right here.

that's not even there and there's wear all over the place pitting in that gear right there. That gear face. The pattern on these are atrocious. Yeah, this thing was flexing and popping, making all kinds of noise.

What a piece of junk. Unbelievable. Okay, well. I guess that completes the autopsy of the steering gear.

It's not what I thought it was. This is garbage and I have to do the job again. Love my job so much! I Do it twice. See you guys later.

Thanks for watching autopsy complete.

100 thoughts on “Mechanic cheated: counterfeit/fake parts! steering gear destroying itself!”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @t.d.mich.7064 says:

    Not a worm gear, its a Ball Screw. The ball bearings fit between the shaft and the nut

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @terrybaptist795 says:

    I guess that junk steering box is nothing that scrap metal now.

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @jake_ says:

    Well. at least this one is never going to be "rebuilt" and sold as new to anyone ever again.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @randygreene5977 says:

    I have seen some of the places in India were some of these items are re-manufactured. I will use the term re-manufactured loosely. I would not want to have to trust them with my life. They are done with the least amount of parts that they can get away with. All those bearings that came out of it are what the worm gear rides on. I would guess that it was short a few balls and it allowed way too much play and the piston was able to hit the end of the housing. As you said junk.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @michaelpressman7203 says:

    You put all the labor to replace a part to find out it's no good! The parts place says "sorry"& gives you a other one your out the labor for doing this again 😢

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @michellericard4850 says:

    Looked like the plastic was rubbing too

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @glennschemitsch8341 says:

    Unfortunately, the steering gearbox should have been inspected before installation. There are specifications to be tested for full range motion so it does not lock up in the free return end positions. simple test with an inch/pound torque wrench. old school DIY .

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @gavinjohnson7409 says:

    Can't trust reman or aftermarket parts these days it seems

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @gilbertotrevisan6538 says:

    I was shocked to see Ray shopped a maybe good rebuildable part, but i kinda understand…He's used to change parts because it's cheaper than repairing them…Because workmanship is expensive and the new parts are cheap…Not like India or Brazil where we repair everything!!!😅😅

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @mikeyoung5211 says:

    Come out, come out where ever you are

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @KendrasEdge757 says:

    Man that is CRAZY!!! Never seen one with its “heart beating” like that when the wheel was turned. lol that was cool to see, but sucks to have to do the job twice though for sure.

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @CraigGrant-sh3in says:

    As Vice Grip Garage calls it, a Craig's List rebuild, tsss tsss

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @gilbertotrevisan6538 says:

    I knew wright away that that's a poorly rebuild part just to lookink how bad it's painted…40 years wrenching…

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @JakeKennes says:

    I've rebuilt a couple of Saginaw steering boxes and they are actually a simple, great and somewhat sturdy design in my opinion! And at least they can be rebuilt as a DIY.
    The big end cap is held in by that snap ring indeed. First give the cap a tap with a rubber mallet, just to shift it a little deeper and free the snap ring. Locate the hole on the edge of the housing, through which you can push a small punch, which will dislodge the snap ring. Now you can easily pry the snap ring out.
    The most tedious of the entire rebuild is getting the ball bearings in correctly and in sequence. There are an equal number of 2 sizes, one set darker grey and the other set "nice and shiny". These are 2 slightly different sizes and need to be alternated when inserting/installing. Best practice is to use grease to stick the bearings in place, in particular in the 2 halve end caps.
    Possibly something went wrong there and one of the bearing balls was either missing, got dislodged due to improper install or was simply dropped inside the housing and not in the "channel" where it's supposed to go…

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @SimpleLife1971 says:

    Ray, just because it's new doesn't mean it's any good…..Eric O!

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @gasselectric says:

    I hope the next one is better

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @Buster-jg9zg says:

    Ray how do you recover your time and expense from something like that?

  18. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @simontravis7452 says:

    WTF

  19. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @John-sl1rk says:

    Faaark looks like a spray rebuild .
    The worst thing is even basic knowledge mechanic could rebuild the unit
    For a power steering box it’s absolutely filthy inside

  20. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @SteveNoblin says:

    Not fake just very bad Chinese junk

  21. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @Veikra says:

    they are all SHIT. Ive done 359 000 km on the original, and blow rebuilds one every 20 000km. Im about to give up and buy a PSC with hydro assist

  22. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @isitworthitletssee222 says:

    Dude ,Dave did try to tell you it wasn’t gonna work yesterday in his way 🤷‍♂️. So give him some props on camera.

  23. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @blockhead3654 says:

    Sweet nice 5000 doller potential fine . And it's on video. Ray you need major safety training as a owner and a worker. You are a great tec but you suck at safety and protecting your fingers and hands that make you the money. See ya can't watch any more.

  24. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @kennyman338 says:

    Dave was right it didn't have a smile face. 😊

  25. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @WC3fanatic997 says:

    It's always good to see Ray doing his mechanic stuff, but it's a real treat when some strange, bizarre happening, garbage company or (potentially) unscrupulous individual activates his Diagnostician Skills

  26. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @peterwilding1203 says:

    Well that sure won't be a rebuildable core! 🙂

  27. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @Swedefool says:

    Jiiiisus!!! Talk about playing with peaoples life 😱😱

  28. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @thrillhunter9897 says:

    only steering box worth a damn is RED HEAD. or factory new.

  29. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @gazza116 says:

    bottom clip has a hole to put a pin in to push out.but that was a dulux rebuild.dulux was a [aint here in australia;

  30. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @arnoldlayne1354 says:

    That was almost as cringe as watching the axle bearing replacement video.

  31. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @rusty1187 says:

    Definitely voided your warranty on that one!!!

  32. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @johnandersen6364 says:

    I suspect the box was from a wreck, if the worm gear has any ball marks it's usually from an impact from an accident. This steering box looks like it wash just washed painted and thrown in a box.

  33. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @rickallen9382 says:

    I hope the parts store took care of this and paid book rate for your labor

  34. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @melsjunk2645 says:

    I sandblasted new track chains for a D8 cat dozer, it had partially burnt, new track pads, new interior, a few new hoses and wires, new seat and a fresh coat of cat paint, they loaded it on the lowbed before the paint was even dry!! Mechanics were betting on wether there would be any paint left by the time it got to the buyer!
    This company was known for this type of "overhaul"

  35. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @evilborg says:

    I hate companies that do this…..

  36. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @malcolmirving9485 says:

    What is a spline bearing Ray?

  37. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @jezeski2011 says:

    You now have video proof of what you took off as a replacement part, so there is no reason you cannot be compensated for being sold a fake or bad part

  38. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @americanjoetv1390 says:

    Last time I replaced one I asked parts to get me a rebuild kit. They looked at me like I had 3 heads. Asked me why. Cause I don't trust parts anymore. You almost have to test and fully inspect every part. Atleast now a days, it's good practice to. But costs more time. Ruins flat rate techs.

  39. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @americanjoetv1390 says:

    the worm gear has the ball bearings ride the worm. bet during the rebuild, If that even happened, they fell down to the bottom of the shaft, causing further extension, pushing on the case cap? perhaps. garbage none the less.

  40. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @HootOwl513 says:

    I had a ''lifetime warranty'' on some parts for my '71 GMC Jimmy thru Checker Auto Parts. No problems til they got bought out by O'Reilly Auto Parts .Alternators and external v9oltage regulators, I kept replacing — only to fail again. I finally bought a new one online with an internal regulator and it runs good. When I had to replace my steering gear they couldn't replace it, so they cashed me out for about $350. Then I got a new one from Rock Auto and it runs good.
    Headlight dimmer switches and EVRs are no damn good.

  41. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @boogerhead0 says:

    I have seen same in "reman" steering gear.. junk, what was done was clean the exterior, maybe replace seals, then paint it. The preload was over tightened. Preload presses the sector gear axis, which drives the wedge-shaped sector gear closer to the piston rack. "Possibly", just loosening the preload screw would have made the gear workable.

  42. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars @oldk4tz says:

    your steering gear is full of Chinesium. and it is trying to escape.